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Old May 20, 2005 | 02:49 AM
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I see many people saying that the Scion Security option is pretty useless. So what does everyone do about their security then? Aftermarket route? If so, which ones?

I like the type of security the new 05 Camry's have. My parents have one and they make this new (new atleast for Toyota Camry's) beep beep sound. I was wondering if I could use this same alarm system on the tC.
Old May 20, 2005 | 02:52 AM
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I like the Scion system actually. No annoying honks/beeps when armed/disarmed. It disables the starter which, coupled with the key system does a good job. If someone is serious about stealing your car, they are going to just drag it on a flatbed, alarm screaming, and drive away anyway The one year warranty on the alarm is nice too. If someone steals it in a year, they pay your deductable.
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Originally Posted by engifineer
I like the Scion system actually. No annoying honks/beeps when armed/disarmed. It disables the starter which, coupled with the key system does a good job. If someone is serious about stealing your car, they are going to just drag it on a flatbed, alarm screaming, and drive away anyway The one year warranty on the alarm is nice too. If someone steals it in a year, they pay your deductable.
hmm, is that a dealer specific warranty?
i don't remmeber my dealer telling me about that....
thats pretty cool though
Old May 20, 2005 | 03:20 PM
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I like the Scion system actually. No annoying honks/beeps when armed/disarmed. It disables the starter which, coupled with the key system does a good job. If someone is serious about stealing your car, they are going to just drag it on a flatbed, alarm screaming, and drive away anyway The one year warranty on the alarm is nice too. If someone steals it in a year, they pay your deductable.
hmm, is that a dealer specific warranty?
i don't remmeber my dealer telling me about that....
thats pretty cool though
No, it comes with the alarm. The warranty info comes with it. I believe the warranty is through Toyota
Old May 20, 2005 | 03:23 PM
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Aside from maybe paging (and the price), what more do you want out of a security system? No one really gives a rats ___ when an alarm is going off anyways... "hey, someone turn that off." I guarantee you'll almost NEVER hear "someone should call the cops, i bet that car is being stolen".

That being said, I have Scion Security and think it's just fine. But I really have it more for the insurance discount.
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Aside from maybe paging (and the price), what more do you want out of a security system? No one really gives a rats ___ when an alarm is going off anyways... "hey, someone turn that off." I guarantee you'll almost NEVER hear "someone should call the cops, i bet that car is being stolen".

That being said, I have Scion Security and think it's just fine. But I really have it more for the insurance discount.
Bingo! that is how I feel. Partly due to people with over-sensitve shock sensors that are set off everytime the wind blows, people do not even pay attention to the alarm anymore. Like I said, you could come up with a big flatbed, load the car with it honking and beeping and drive off in broad daylight and no one would look twice. They would most likely think you are a repo man anyway.
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Has anyone noticed that the tC's alarm is extremely loud and almost peircing? If you stand in front of the car and set the alarm off you can damage your ears, unlike most cars I've seen. My Sebring convertible's alarm was TERRIBLE... and my parent's Yukon's horn is definetely not this loud.
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Has anyone noticed that the tC's alarm is extremely loud and almost peircing? If you stand in front of the car and set the alarm off you can damage your ears, unlike most cars I've seen. My Sebring convertible's alarm was TERRIBLE... and my parent's Yukon's horn is definetely not this loud.
The horn is loud. The alarm just honks the horn.
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I got it for the cool keys you get hehe.


Mostly you get it to keep it OEM and for the auto lock/unlock feature.


If someone is going to steal it, they will if you have an alarm or not.

Best alarm deterents out there are to remove your steering wheel everytime you get out of your car, or to put one of those battery connectors that you can remove/ screw out a special peice that kills the connection to your battery....
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ohhh....
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removnig ur steering wheel? that sux
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Originally Posted by motozen
I got it for the cool keys you get hehe.


Mostly you get it to keep it OEM and for the auto lock/unlock feature.


If someone is going to steal it, they will if you have an alarm or not.

Best alarm deterents out there are to remove your steering wheel everytime you get out of your car, or to put one of those battery connectors that you can remove/ screw out a special peice that kills the connection to your battery....
Those "cool keys" come as standard equipment on the tC, along with the keyless entry feature. Sounds like you may have received some false info so that the dealership could sell you an alarm.
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I really like the fact that it's quiet when you set and unset it. And the beeps make sense if you sound them out:
beep = lock
beep beep = unlock
No loud honk, just a quiet beep and a quick light flash.

And like most people say, if a pro wants to take it he will. It will help keep the kids from taking it, but a pro will just drag it off on a flatbed. Luckily they are new so the demand for used parts is not high - when they say Camry and Accord are the most stolen, it's seems to be models from several (6 to 10) years back. Like the ones that would be breaking down right about now, and people want to fix up for cheap. That's my theory.
Old May 20, 2005 | 06:24 PM
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ShadyEye: I think the thing with the keys is that it's all in one, yes, standard with tC... BUT you don't have to carry a second remote or unit or anything with it. It's just the key for doors / alarm.

lowlevel: There's no beep at all. it's just the light flashes with the OEM security. One flash locks. Two unlocks. Four unlocks all.
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Originally Posted by ShadyEye16
Originally Posted by motozen
I got it for the cool keys you get hehe.


Mostly you get it to keep it OEM and for the auto lock/unlock feature.


If someone is going to steal it, they will if you have an alarm or not.

Best alarm deterents out there are to remove your steering wheel everytime you get out of your car, or to put one of those battery connectors that you can remove/ screw out a special peice that kills the connection to your battery....
Those "cool keys" come as standard equipment on the tC, along with the keyless entry feature. Sounds like you may have received some false info so that the dealership could sell you an alarm.
What he meant I think was that by taking the Scion Security you dont have to have an extra device hanging off of your key chain
Old May 21, 2005 | 03:43 AM
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Originally Posted by ack154
lowlevel: There's no beep at all. it's just the light flashes with the OEM security. One flash locks. Two unlocks. Four unlocks all.
You can enable the beep, or have it silent - your choice...

I just had a 2-Way Compustar Alarm/Remote Start installed on my 5-speed, and couldnt be happier - TONS more features than the optional Scion security. Id definitely reccomend an aftermarket security system over factory unless you HAVE to keep the single key without an extra fob/pager remote (or you really want the deductable benefit).
Old May 21, 2005 | 03:53 AM
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Originally Posted by VIP_tC
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lowlevel: There's no beep at all. it's just the light flashes with the OEM security. One flash locks. Two unlocks. Four unlocks all.
You can enable the beep, or have it silent - your choice...
So you can enable the beep on the OEM Scion Security? If you can then how?

Or what you mean by your choice is by getting an aftermarket alarm system that has a beep?
Old May 21, 2005 | 03:58 AM
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Originally Posted by ndnbolla
Originally Posted by VIP_tC
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lowlevel: There's no beep at all. it's just the light flashes with the OEM security. One flash locks. Two unlocks. Four unlocks all.
You can enable the beep, or have it silent - your choice...
So you can enable the beep on the OEM Scion Security? If you can then how?

Or what you mean by your choice is by getting an aftermarket alarm system that has a beep?
Ooops, yeah I think youre right... I read this thread that someone got theirs to beep, but it turned out to be the toyota alarm and not the scion alarm... Looks like there is no way to make the factory alarm beep:
https://www.scionlife.com/forums/vie...ght=alarm+horn
Old May 21, 2005 | 04:03 AM
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Wait, in this thread there are people who claim theirs has an audible alert...:
https://www.scionlife.com/forums/vie...ght=alarm+horn

I dunno really now - just buy a good aftermarket and dont worry about it
Old May 21, 2005 | 04:06 AM
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every toyota alarm ive ever know can beep. maybe a function that can be turned on and off?? I think its called something like a piazzo chirp, not sure....someone look it up and see what ya can do



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