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View Poll Results: What are HIGH quality Big Brakes worth to you?
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Big Brakes: What would u pay?

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Old Feb 7, 2004 | 02:10 AM
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i wanna see a nice big ___ stoptech setup...
Old Feb 7, 2004 | 02:15 AM
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These 2 cars are to small to worry about a large brake upgrade....your wasting your money.......all we need is to get better braking is...upgrading to stainless steal brake lines and better brake pads....you really dont need to rotors....what a waste of money for this type of car
Old Feb 7, 2004 | 03:03 AM
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no thanx, the car wont be going 150+ mph, so I dont think I need the big brakes... the lil ones on there seem to do a good job for my driving style...
Old Feb 7, 2004 | 04:16 AM
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I voted no, carbon/kevlar pads on the front make a huge improvement. Stainless hoses next.....

Style points? Huge brakes are cool..... and the little drums look stupid but.... Extra unsprung weight and more rotating mass to accelerate-No thanks. I can do much more with the $$ than a big brake set up would gain.

HP and handling are KING..... Screw the BLING!!!

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Old Feb 10, 2004 | 08:18 PM
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Assuming you want to run bigger brakes for their real intended reason: better stopping, then there's more to adding them than just bolting on, well, bigger brakes. Most of the SEMA show cars had huge Wilwoods bolted on front and rear, but the master cylinder and the rest of the brake system were not addressed, and thus, the cars really do not stop any better than stock. If anything, I would even assume (and have been confirmed by someone who actually has driven those cars) that they stop worse than stock. But then again, if the only driving you're doing is on and off the trailer between shows, then that's not a big concern. Honestly, until someone has REALLY exceeded the limits of their stock brake system, there's no real need to worry about upgrading. And how do you know you've exceeded the limits? Well, if you have to ask that question, then you haven't exceeded it yet! >HAHAHA< :)
Old Feb 10, 2004 | 10:54 PM
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Just a quick point on brake upgrades. It is not always necessary to change the master cylinder or add a proportioning valve when disks/calipers are upgraded. It's all in the design of the system and the components chosen.

Brake system design is a pretty deep subject and is not easily mastered. I have read several good books on the subject but still don't know enough to build a max performance system from the ground up.

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Old Feb 11, 2004 | 04:56 PM
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I'd stay away from Wilwoods also. I know peeps that have had bad luck w/ them. They look cool, but why risk your life and the others around you.
Old Feb 11, 2004 | 05:36 PM
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I guess I would just upgrade the rotors more then the whole caliper kit. Our pads alone are real premium pads and the calipers are fine. I really would just want some vented/crossdrilled to help it out. I WOULD be interested in a rear disc set-up! :D
Old Feb 11, 2004 | 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by DenZinz
Im trying to find out if there is a market in Big Brakes. Realistically, what would you pay for HIGH Quality big brakes.

Lets say the kit is a front and rear kit with 4 pots.
4pots on a 2,300 pound car?

no thanks

maybe some minor upgrades to the front, and a rear disc conversion would be nice though.
Old Feb 11, 2004 | 07:33 PM
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Yeah, I'm not all that sure on a big brake upgrade, like Brembo or Willwood or Stoptech, but I wouldn't mind having larger rotors. The others listed are a little too big, but the stocks are too small. Can't we have something that is in the middle? I've heard a few other people talk about the Corolla brakes fitting, but I don't know if anyone has tried it.

I would though, like to see a rear disk brake conversion, just because of looks. I don't like the way that drums look, compared to disk. It should be functional, obviously, but I just want it to look better.
Old Feb 11, 2004 | 07:45 PM
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are there any plans for a rear disc conversion? I would take in it in a second. :D
Old Feb 12, 2004 | 09:56 PM
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Yeah, stay away from Wilwood. I run them on my Scion, my s2000 race car, my dads 03 sc430 and my bros 03 civic SI and on my old miata. I would never run them again


None of my cars require a proportioning valve, risidual valves or any type of balancing tools. All of them, minus the scion, also retain the factory bias. The Scion is still a little nose grabby because of the drum set up in the rear. Once we finish the rear disc conversion kit WITH e brake everything will be much better.

I d also like to point out that every kit is also a lot lighter their factory counter parts. Even the scion big brake kit is lighter than stock.
Old Feb 17, 2004 | 06:56 PM
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a big brake kit for $500 or less msrp will never be possible that includes rotors, pads, discs, lines, calipers, and the whole nine.
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