I installed mine this weekend. I went with a moderate drop of about 2". Now if I could just find some 15" white spoke rims I liked I'd be happy.

 

its smooth correct? nice ride

 

Well after a few days I have to say it is a smooth ride. Now that I have messed around with the adjustments a little I am pretty quick at changing it to.

 

Looking good Ohmen. Is the kit at it's very lowest setting in that pic? A few of us are very interested in the progress kit but we'd like to see some detailed pics of the car slammed.

 

https://www.scionlife.com/forums/vie...4543&start=100

installed photos as well as rear lowered to its fullest with front leveled to rear. Front will lay fully all the way but no need if rear is maxed out at perch. ride at this height is very very very good.

jeff

 

3'' is hardly "laying all the way down". Darren's custom spring set up is 3.25'' drop if i'm not mistaken. Lower than a lot of coilovers will drop you, but progress was selling the product like it could drop 5-6'' front stock height.

I don't know, i personally wouldn't get these. Jic or HKS for me if i were to put more money into the box. But i don't know how long i'll be keeping it since i plan to start college soon, and its going to be extremely expensive.

 

Yeah, I'd like to be able to go super low when parked and this seemed
like a nice alternative to air but the pics just don't look like it's enough
of a drop for my purposes.

 

your mistaken. at no time was it said to do 5-6" drop. just because you have springs at 3.25" drop doesn't mean it rides very well. I've seen d210's or whatever designation they are...sag to 3". i've seen goldlines do the same thing. Thats not saying much.

i could remove the perch and put it down another couple inches...but nice ride? i don't think so. That probably IS 5"



if all you want is a slammed look for a show? sure...pull the perch for the show and put it back on when your done. 15min job

 

^ I have df210's and the ride is fine, and it handles great. 2.2''-2.3'' of a drop.

I was specifically told when progress was making these that the drop would be around 5-6'' in the front, and up to 3.5'' in the back. That is what i was told by someone who works with progress, now that could have changed. Which is fine, usually when it goes through design process things will change. However, i feel Progress (i dont know if you work for them or not, hard to tell) has let down many SL members by their lack of updating with the progess and designs of their products. Heard about it a few times, then months past not a word.

3'' is a nice drop, don't get me wrong. But its nothing "special" from any of the other coilover companys except the price. But even then, its only 100-200 cheaper than the rest and some of those in the lower $1k range drop 3.5''.

 

i never said it doesn't drop in the front completely. it will. from your above post you said 5-6" drop...not just front. Front will do that. There is enough threading on the coilover body to put the vehicle completely down. The rears are limited to the perch. I gave info why the perch should still be used over putting coilover in the shocks place. There is a reason to use a long throw shock on the outside with a spring inside. Its for balance and ride quality. If all you want is to be as low as possible and you don't care about ride quality? you have a choice. buy front and rear coilovers for about twice the amount of the Progress or remove the perch sleeve from the rear of the Progress. oh yeah..number 3...hack it a set of springs because you don't care what the vehicle feels like or what happens to your suspension.

This kit gives you a very agressive daily ride stance, it will give you a very comfortable ride at 3". Even more comfortable higher then that of course. You can do things to get you way way down for show purposes. Its still using the long throw outside shock and not some stubby coilover thats been compressed to nothing. If you were local...i'd be happy to take you for a ride. If the product is not for you? thats fine...but its a very good product, a very nice design, versatile and valued.

Progress has been nothing but upfront with what they have, had or intend on making. They did one thing wrong...and one thing only...give a date of this kits release too far in advance.


this is from the Temple of Vtec on the new SI civic

"from TOV on the new Si. this is the same reason toyota has a longer stroke shock outside of the springs.

Multi-Link Double Wishbone Rear Suspension
Honda engineers have also revisited the rear suspension to improve the Civic's handling precision and ride. The multi-link double wishbone rear suspension benefits from a new design that facilitates more rebound stroke and improved positioning of the damper. The improved rebound stroke allows the vehicle to soak up bumps and harsh road surfaces with quietness and ease, while also enhancing overall stability. The damper is mounted closer to the wheels for a more favorable 1.1:1 lever ratio between suspension movement and the distance that the damper actually travels (the previous ratio was 1.7:1). The more direct relationship means the dampers are able to provide better damping and control throughout the full range of suspension travel. These enhancements combined with sport-oriented spring and damper settings greatly increase the overall sporty feel of the vehicle and increase the feeling of coordination between the front and rear suspensions (a surprisingly uncommon trait in many vehicles).



there is a reason to keep the spring and shock seperated and the perch for the rear was done for this reason"

 

Yes, i realize that and that 5-6'' was from a progress employee. He was probably referring to the front, which if thats the case fine but i haven't seen any pictures that represent that. I already know about ride quality and why you would want specifics, i'm not arguing with you about that. I'm not arguing with you at all actually.

The only thing i have yet to see though, is proof of this 5-6'' front end drop. I went to the link and didn't see one xb lowered completely..if there was, i either over-looked it or it truly isn't a 5-6'' drop on the front.

The one picture i've seen with an appeared low, low stance in the front was when i talked to the guy from progress. (last year some point) The xb had a lip kit which gives the impression of the xb lower than what it is. If you can provide a picture or two of an xb fully lowered on progress coilovers, i will be more than happy to admit defeat but i haven't seen it yet...Thats all i am saying.

 

i'll take photos for you friday latest. i'll drop the front to its max setting. just need to drive up a few boards so that i'm able to get my jack out.

fair enough?


btw...i don't recall if i moved it from this point...but this is i think 3" lowered in front. a pick of the front coilover.



as i said..i'll take photos.

 

Okay, sounds good. Don't get me wrong, i'm not trying to prove you wrong by any means. But all i have seen is people assuming, rumors or just talk. Once i see the drop pictures, i will not only be happy and impressed with what progress has to offer. But i won't be as skeptical either as i am now.

So fair.

 

Agreed. We'd like to see pics of the xB all the way down when you get a chance Jeff. Oh, and if you could remove the spring perch, that would be nice too. I'd like to see just how low this kit actually goes.

Thanks,
Erik

 

i can't go any lower in the front..my wheels are hitting the bolt holding the bumper and the liner. i have a honda offset with 18x7.5's

kinda funny..i haven't done the rear yet...but as you can tell it settled compared to my first photos imediately after install. i can get the rear lower then the front because of my offset issue

 

All the way up

down where i have it hitting liner/bolt. less then 4 fingers to floor with 18x7.5 rims with stock bumper



where its hitting



bent jic front chassis brace from the boards to get the jack out. notice even bent the brace is 1.5-2" off the ground with those wheels




i'll do the rear another day....but i think this isn't bad for 699

Jeff

 

Hm, not bad. Its sort of hard to tell in the pictures where its sitting but it appears to be really low. Did you manage to get any full body shots?

 

There is a great pic on clubxb.com of an xB lowered all the way
down on the progress coilovers. It's a very nice, aggresive drop.

 

I saw the pictures if its the same xb you are talking about, it's a full 3'' drop according to his posts.

Personally, if i were to get coilovers i would probably want the drop to be around 3 in the rear and 3.5-3.8'' front and that would be perfect for me. There are some coilovers that will do that, but i keep seeing mixed progress results? Makes it questionable.

 

Yup, I think it may come down to writing a fat check for an air suspension. That may be the only way we can get the results that (I think) we're both looking for.