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Old Feb 20, 2004 | 07:34 PM
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Hi guys i m driving a JDM IST in Singapore and i m not very sure if the H&R spacers fit into my car. I m very interested in the 20mm spacers because my new rims OFFSET is 42 and it look terrible coz of IST wide fenders.

Is the xA in 4 lugs? or 5 lugs? IST has 4 lugs on the rims and not very sure if the diameter of the spacers will fit. Please advise me, any help will be very much appreciated. :D
Old Feb 21, 2004 | 01:29 AM
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xA is 4 lugs. 4x100.
You want the 54.1 centerbore spacers.
Old Feb 21, 2004 | 03:03 AM
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Does any one know how to change the studs? (my first Japanese car)
I need to get H&R 20mm for the rear and i need longer stud on the front
( i have17"x7.5" +45 off set with 5mm spacer. stock stud are to short)
thanx.
Old Feb 21, 2004 | 04:39 AM
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I would guess that they need to be pressed out/in. Not sure though.
Old Feb 21, 2004 | 04:46 AM
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do i need any special tools?
Old Feb 21, 2004 | 04:53 AM
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If they need to be pressed in/out, you'll need a press. That's pretty special. Probably best to confirm my info from somebody that's familiar with small toyotas first.
Old Feb 22, 2004 | 12:00 AM
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Originally Posted by EL PAALO
I would guess that they need to be pressed out/in. Not sure though.
i noticed that. when i added 20mm spacers to my jetta the bolts are just that, bolts. the xB has nuts and the threads stick out from the 'axle'. the spacers they sell here say that they come with longer bolts, but i don't know if and how to replace them on the car.

i will send an email or something to this board and/or h&r to see what the deal is. push comes to shove, i may go with 25mm and just add the adapter thing which you dont need longer bolts for.
Old Feb 22, 2004 | 12:28 AM
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Originally Posted by N600
i'm 100% against spacers...
but.....
if you do get them, only run the H&R style ones...
they have a second set of studs built into the aluminum spacer...
then the spacer it's self bolts to the OE studs so there is less sheer loads on the OE studs.
here's a pic:

they are called Track+ wheel spacers.
Dang, these look nice, but a 10mm aluminum plate doesn't seem to be terribly strong, particularly when the plate is stressed as these are. It would reduce the shear loads on the original studs, but the plate itself picks up some pretty hefty loads.

Now if the plate was made of steel...

George
Old Feb 22, 2004 | 04:41 PM
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heavier does not always mean stronger.
Old Feb 22, 2004 | 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by George

Dang, these look nice, but a 10mm aluminum plate doesn't seem to be terribly strong, particularly when the plate is stressed as these are. It would reduce the shear loads on the original studs, but the plate itself picks up some pretty hefty loads.

Now if the plate was made of steel...

George
ive had 10mm spacer on my other car for 3 years and it is still holding
I would recommend to get the extended studs when buying a spacer
Old Feb 22, 2004 | 05:14 PM
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The wheel is made of aluminum too and I'd bet those spacers are stronger than many wheel pads.
Old Feb 22, 2004 | 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by stnley
heavier does not always mean stronger.
No, but higher yield strength numbers _do_ mean stronger:

High Strength Aluminum: ~60,000PSI
Steel: ~180,000PSI

Conventional wheel spacers can be made out of just about any metal, as they are strictly in compression. However, the spacers pictured carry loads between their own studs and the car's studs through the metal of the spacer itself.

However, they do provide a nice way to use other bolt patterns than the 4x100mm.

My own preference would be for conventional spacers with the hub-centric socket machined in the back and a hub-centric protrusion on the wheel side. This would carry the shear loads, leaving the studs (even long studs) free to carry only tensile loads.

George
Old Feb 22, 2004 | 08:50 PM
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im running 18's with 45mm offset....using a 5mm spacer in the back with stock studs.....no problems here....
Old Feb 23, 2004 | 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by scionara
Originally Posted by Besk one
Roger, are you still only running the 5mm spacers in the back??

was wondering what spacers you were using in the pics with the ADR Fuel rims...
Yes, I am still using the 5mm spacers with the ADR Fuel Rims. BTW, the rims are still for sale but missing front tires so selling those ADR Fuel for $580 (shameless plug).

BTW, 13k miles with spacers and I'm still also alive...
with the 5mm spacers in the back did u have to change your studs....i didnt have to....but im thinkin 20mm now...and for those i will need longer studs
Old Feb 23, 2004 | 06:20 PM
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[quote="George"]
Originally Posted by stnley

My own preference would be for conventional spacers with the hub-centric socket machined in the back and a hub-centric protrusion on the wheel side. This would carry the shear loads, leaving the studs (even long studs) free to carry only tensile loads.

George
That's how many of the H&R spacers are.
Old Feb 23, 2004 | 06:59 PM
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I got 17"x7.5" +45 offset with 5mm spacer (pep-boys type) front and back.
I ordered 17"x7.5" +40 offset. but WHEELOPTIONS.COM shipped me with 5mm spacer GLUED to my wheels. never order any thing from this UNPROFESSIONAL PEOPLE.
Anyway...
Front looks OK (stock studs is too short, not safe)
Rear not OK (stock studs is too short,not safe)
So according from my ruler i need H&R 15 mm(Part # 30245414) spacer wich it comes with longer studs for the front.(will remove GLUED 5mm spacers)
and rear, I'm getting H&R 25 mm spacer (Part # 5024541).(will remove GLUED 5mm spacers)

After the spacers basically i will have 17"x7.5" +30 offset for the front
and +20 offset in the rear.
With Spy 2" springs

I will post pic (before & after) as soon as i get my spacers.
Old Feb 23, 2004 | 07:41 PM
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This is the place you ordered from?
http://wheeloptions.com/wheels.html

That's ridiculous. Have you tried to get a refund or anything?
Please let me know. PM or email if you like.
Old Feb 23, 2004 | 08:16 PM
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Dude I would ask for a refund. That is very misleading. You can't give someone spacers to give them the correct offset for their rims. I would never order from them bro.
Old Feb 25, 2004 | 04:52 AM
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[quote="EL PAALO"]
Originally Posted by George
Originally Posted by stnley

My own preference would be for conventional spacers with the hub-centric socket machined in the back and a hub-centric protrusion on the wheel side. This would carry the shear loads, leaving the studs (even long studs) free to carry only tensile loads.

George
That's how many of the H&R spacers are.
the hubcentric spacers are for tire alignment....whats with this weight bearing BS...my hubcentric rings are plastic and there is no way in hell they can take the weight load of a car being plastic.....i called big o tires and they told me they were for tire alignment only....not weight loads...
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