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Old Jun 15, 2006 | 01:20 AM
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Hmmmmmm...

Just happened to think that some folks won't "accept" those quotes above, and will want to see "the whole thing" to assure themselves that there isn't some little loophole they can squeeze through (there isn't). Just to give those folks something to read, here's a link to Washington State law covering this, and a nice PDF of section 108 of the FMVSS (federal law on vehicle lighting).

Washington state:
http://apps.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.a...6.37&full=true
Federal:
http://tijil.org/cfr49.571.108.pdf

I include the state laws on this as an example - each state is slightly different, and if one wants to assure that their vehicle is legal in their state, it would pay to understand the laws before one gets a ticket for breaking them. All in all, the state laws and requirements are a LOT simpler than the equivalent federal laws, though more and more, state laws are 'referencing' other documents, such as federal standards, as if they were included in their entirety.

It should be obvious why the 'cop on the beat' or your average traffic cop doesn't know all the rules and laws dealing with cars - even a lawyer or lawmaker will have a research staff to keep up. Thing is, the odds are that there is probably at least one cop who knows about the law you broke if you drive by, and one of these days you just might drive by him...

Oh, for those who are really gluttons for punishment, here is a link to the complete Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards (FMVSS):
http://www.access.gpo.gov/nara/cfr/w...cfr571_05.html

Enjoy!

Old Jun 15, 2006 | 02:42 AM
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"10-4 Danno this is officer Tom in car 54, I'm in envolved in a slow speed pursuit with a big green brick traveling at no more than 70MPH. I think I'm going to have to bring them in on a code 189er, driving with out proper amber side reflectors"

hehe sorry just busting your chops....
Old Jun 15, 2006 | 02:50 AM
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lol
Old Jun 15, 2006 | 04:15 AM
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I like the look of cleared corners better, and when the signal's on its amber :p Let em give me a ticket and I'll be able to see if my attorney's any good.
Old Jun 15, 2006 | 04:31 AM
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Yeah, your turn signal may be amber, but notice at night that you no longer have ANY reflector at the front of your box. Easy way to get broadsided at night. Makes the everyday world just a little bit less safe for you and those forced to share it with you.

Aside from that, though, I really would like to hear your lawyer try to argue that you are exempt from state and federal law.
Old Jun 15, 2006 | 04:37 AM
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Old Jun 15, 2006 | 05:47 AM
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Tomas makes an excellent point. Thanks for looking up all the vehicle codes and laws. I'm pretty sure anyone's lawyer would be unable to defend against a ticket or accident involving not having an amber front reflector on their Box. I have removed mine and take some assurance in the knowledge that if I'm out on the road at night, my lights are on and the amber bulb can be seen rather well from the front as well as the side. I know I run the risk of getting a ticket for not having the reflector but for now it's a risk I'm willing to take for the (IMO) better appearance.

Rather than think of myself as "stupid", I think of myself as someone who has made an informed decision that others don't agree with. I know the risks and I choose to do the mod anyway. Let's call me "foolish" at best.

Not a blaze on anyone, just stating my opinion.
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