ZOMGXB

Okay. So, I got rear-the-hell ended, and of course the body shop did more damage than the guy who drove into me.

But to PROVE it, I NEED YOUR HELP.

See this picture?



I'm 99% certain that little mounting bracket thing highlighted used to be UNDER the rest of the plastic. I've hand-waxed that car about 20 times, I've removed the rear bumper myself, I've removed my sister-in-law's xB's rear bumper...and they were never on the outside then.

However, after noticing several things majorly wrong with my xB after getting it back from the body shop (like the HUGE FREAKING SCRATCH in the freshly-repainted bumper), I checked it against another xB - and found the same thing. Bracket outside the cover. But that other Scion was ALSO rear-ended, and had the entire rear bumper replaced, so I don't know.

I need other people with 2005 xB's - who haven't been hit; that factor is getting harder and harder to come by - to go check and see if that thing is under or over the plastic part. I'm going to raise hell anyway - the bracket on the driver's side is cracked, they put on this HUGE gigantic chrome exhaust without my permission (CROOKED), and their car wash put massive scratches in all the paint on the passenger side.

I just need my ScionLife buds to back me up on this. I'm 100% certain that any two people from this forum, selected completely at random, would have done a better job.

And I guess the moral of the story is: never let your Scion be serviced at a collision center owned by a Chevy dealership.

Zombietime

I just checked my 05 xb and the bracket is over the plastic. Mine was never hit so that's how it came off the boat.

frogbox

Inside , I got a 2004 but I don't think that really matters.

Tomas

Mine's a 2005, built in October 2004, no bodywork in area at all:



Tom

hotweelz4me

the pictured bolt basically holds 3 layers together:
Inner fender
Rear bumper
Inner wheel well plasitic (the bracket in question is directly attached to the inner fender well plastic

bB2NER

Yep, mine is outside and has never been hit or messed with.
Sorry about the bad bodyshop experience. It's not the first time I've heard this sort of thing. They think everyone is as stupid as the public is in general. One guys car got so scratched up at the body shop and his insurance company would not help him out. He ended up having to pay out of pocket for a new paint job.

ZOMGXB

Gaaahhhhh...

First off, thanks for the help, everybody - I'm SO close to freaking over this that the only thing holding me together is you guys.

Second...so far we're half and half. Is it possible this sort of thing isn't standardized? o_0 I thought they were all made in the same place! I'm absolutely certain those bolts were under the plastic for mine...is it possible they're BOTH right?

frogbox

Our cars , if I remember , come off the boat without the bumpers installed to decrease the chance of damage. they put them in the back seat :D . it would have scraped on the ramps of the delivery truck.

so maybe it all depends on the installer at the port or dealership , I saw mine come off the truck and it was shipped without the front and rear bumper installed , dealer did mine.

Tomas

!!!

I think you hit it, Froggy!

I've seen 'em coming in, and those items ARE inside. Port or dealer does the final install, so 'standardization' might fly out the window.

The drawing from Toyota:



Shows the tab on the outside, and the dealer pre-delivery sheet:

http://tijil.org/Scion_Docs/04_xB_Sh...cion/xBpdt.pdf

Shows the dealer installing the rear bumper cover.

Ding!

Tom

burstaneurysm

Mine has the clip and bolt on the outside...

hotbox05

Yeah and the clip will work in either position.

bB2NER

It's set up like that so the bolt doesn't touch the painted part of the bumper. Also the bumpers are installed at the factory. It's the lower lips that go on after it comes off the car haulers at the dealership to the best of my knowledge.

hotbox05

bb2ner is right bumpers are still on the cars , they never come off from once they are put on . teh lips are actually in a plastic bag and does not get put on until the vehicle gets PDI'd at a dealership