The rustang is a joke. Crown Vics were great big rwd cars that got about 22 mpg avg, and got really high miles. Figure cops and cabs use them. They're no longer available under the Ford brand.

As far as the Flex goes, I think it will be underpowered, I think the stance already stinks, and it makes me wonder if Ford really did leave the minivan market. I think they're just hiding a minivan, and if this catches on, I really do fear for the crossover market's future.


re: toronado
I was surprised at that trend too, figuring the Milan would just suck interior wise, but I liked it all around better than the Camry. No interest in an accord.

 

btw: One more reliable Ford Explorer sport trac 2001-2005. The design was old school from mid 90's with live or one piece axle yet the bugs were all beat out of it by 2003 and it is surprisingly reliable. Consumer reports liked it too! You had to get rid of the crap-ola shocks and update the swaybar then coolness. Oh then they blew it redisigned everything. Sucky gas milage though.

 

the explorer has been around since the seventies... though it was truck back then

 

Well, what you are referring too is an option package that could be had on Ford trucks back then. That's why you see some old 70s Ford trucks with the "Explorer" badging.

 

The thing about the Flex is the proportions of it are deceiving. From looking at the photos, it looks like it could easily be something about the size of a mid-sixties Chevy Nova wagon - or maybe a bit larger. But from looking at the dimensions that Toyopet posted, this thing is going to be larger than life so to speak.

At 80" wide, and 68" tall, that's 3 inches wider and only an inch lower than the Freestar (AKA Windstar) minivan it replaces.

So, yeah, they are definitely hiding a minivan in there. Which isn't necessarily a bad thing. Just depends on your personal prefs/needs.

Personally, I feel we need more microvans here in the USA. They are dime a dozen elsewhere in the world. Yet here we only have the Mazda5 and Kia Rondo (if you can even call that a microvan - it's more like a mini crossover).

I "Wish" they would sell the Toyota Wish here!

 

It is the result of a drunken orgy between a Chrysler Pacifica, a Land Rover and a Mercedes R class..... and then an xB went in for sloppy seconds.

 

uhh.... no. Another Ford failure...

 

How about the nissan cube?? xB1 look a like. due here about 2009 or so

 

Whoa! Is it based on this concept? That's what Google came up with...

 

i think that might be a newer pic, but thats not the one i seen

 

here you go nissan cube

 

I wish you could get the e4wd on the xB like the cube has. but that is never going to happen...sigh... I hate Alaska snow!... well only when i get stuck. BTW the cube is disgustingly ugly.

 

I think it's cu(b) te

 

if its like that one with all the shots of it... dude I'd drive it in a heartbeat!

 

*ring ring*

Hey guys, Buck Rogers is on my phone and he wants his car back!

Good God, from the front it looks like a toaster with Ford badges and a Escalade grill.

Power gate? LED taillights? At least for your standard $26k toaster clone you get a V6 and fog lamps.

Why would I buy an American made vehicle especially a Fix Or Repair Daily? I had me once in my life and that was two too many.

The only thing I have that is American is my Harley and I'll keep it that way.