late spring. yes .

rice close? you must be hight , more power , larger motor , larger car. more more more.


moon/sunroof? aftermarket ones are better in all ways. and if ONE feature makes or breaks a car for you , WOW

 

Hi hotbox: your reply reminds me: wouldn't aftermarket void the factory warranty (thus my preference for a factory option)? (If so, I would wait until after 3 yrs/36,000 miles to install...and which brand(s) are you recommending? NO leaks?)

You said larger engine: which neighborhood will that be? So it sounds like it's gonna be more $...some idea how much more?

And so just as to clarify: CURRENT will still be available up until new gen availability in showroom around March/April even though production will stop in December?!!

As for consumer inputs, I (think) I vote for sliding doors for both sides for the practical aspect if one was wedged tightly between say two parked cars, you can still open the doors and lounge around like you are at a beach party...speaking of lounge, let's make it that: a la Toyota Concept F3R, Honda Element, Fit, whatnot...just "un-minivan" the minivan look like how a Scion shouldn't be your soccermoms' minivans

 

current SOULD be . then again that will change with the sales of the region.


it will have the crap arsed 2.4 liter

any high quality sunroof can leak. it's about 90% in the install.


webasto


probably AT LEAST 16k starting

 

would this crap arsed engine be likely to fit in a 1gen xB should one be totalled with an intact engine

(obviously still with some work but on the same level as a celica swap)

 

So do installing aftermarket sun/moonroofs void warranty? (The 3yrs/36000miles basic warranty?)

t2B concept shows moonroofs...will those carry over to production? (Really need to know!!)

t2B (oops, xB replacement)...still gonna be made in Japan?

Are ASC (American Specialty Cars formerly American Sunroof Corporation)/Inalfa roofs...good? (Anyone have these installed? How do u like them?) Or Webasto better hands down?

EDIT: added Q: SoCal xB owners...how's your stock cars going up the hills...going to...San Diego? Magic Mountain/Grapevine? Cajon Pass I-15? Santa Barbara? What gear are you in (talking 'bout sticks)?

Scion truck 1/4 scale model (near end of 17 minutes video...think between 16 & 17 minute marks...from scion.com site @ http://mfile.akamai.com/8096/wmv/toy...iling_300k.asx ) announced with t2B...practical (meaning able to haul 4x8 drywall)??? Or just a "show" truck only (meaning small items like mountain bike, an armchair, whatnot)???

 

This crap arsed 2.4 is the one in the tC and various other Toyota cars. Would the tC engine fit under the hood of an xB? .... I supposed it "could" technically ... but at what cost and loss?

 

this pic not the same as others posted. One was extended xb body no camo.

This vehicle looks to be a complete pre-production model. All the body is camo'd & wheel are 15in 5 lugs which I guess means the next xb will have larger wheels & the seats look different from angle of pic. I hope it comes in the same Orage color.

One question where would a vehicle like this be going?
I would think all testing would be done now. In West L.A. we don't see many camo vehicles around.

 

An aftermarket sunroof has no effect on the car's warranty. The aftermarket sunroof will also have its own warranty, usually 3 years for the inbuilt slider type. I have not heard of ASC. Inalfa I heard of, as that is what my Rostra cruise control installer sells. I myself bought a Webasto from another local sunroof and leather seat installer:
http://s49.photobucket.com/albums/f2...%20and%20Dash/

The Inalfa and Webasto sunroofs, like OEM sunroofs, cannot leak water into the interior. They may not be perfectly water-tight, but you will never know it, because they have a perimeter gutter that is drained by a tube at each corner of the opening. The tubes go down into the wheel wells or rocker panels.

The only drawback of the aftermarket sunroofs is the floating headliner. Factory headliners are fabric laminated a rigid shell, either without or with a sunroof. To install an aftermarket sunroof, the shell is removed and stripped, and a hole is cut in it to fit the full length of the sunroof track, which is twice the length of the hole in the roof. Then new fabric is stretched or floated from the edge of the roof hole to the perimeter of the shell, to hide the track and motor. The floating headliner therefore spans over areas where it has no backing, and these areas flutter a little with the sunroof open at speed. I think after awhile this might stretch and loosen the headliner fabric. The floated fabric can also be torn or punctured if you are not careful.

 

hotbox05

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suicide doors on both sde if i remember correctly

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I hope the above is true, but a remember awhile back you poo pooing what somebody was guessing about the next be. Now your saying basically that person was right.

I have one question will next xb have similiar seating to t2b or extra optional seating configuration? [/table:9b75618a68]

 

Was there a b-pillar? I personally can't stand the Element type doors where the front must be opened in order to open the rear.

Chris

 

no b pillar. toyota makes all suicides with the structure built into the rear door , and you have to open the front before the rear. i'm not 100% on if it will have both suicides or not but that is what I last heard.

t-ak-bx I don't remember what you are referring to but ok. I know that initially I was told the t2b would never make production but in the last amount of time from talks , reading , pictures i'm going with what is true.

 

I think the idea of the missing B-pillars is to give that sense of roominess, as in easy getting in and out of passengers and easy loading of equipment (not ******* you bro, aight). What's so hard about opening JUST ENOUGH for rear passengers--just as long as Scion do not go around SCREWING IT UP by attaching the front seat belts to the rear suicide doors...

...that's why I vote for concept's sliding doors on both sides (still get that roominess feeling)...
(EDIT: added links since it seems don't let me hotlink PICS http://netcarshow.com/scion/2005-t2b_concept/03.htm
http://netcarshow.com/scion/2005-t2b_concept )...just so long as Scion does not SCREW IT UP by making it powered like concept--just give me MANUAL and I'm fine. In fact, I don't like anything powered (PW, PDL, cruise control)!!! I'm practical and sensible aight! What if u go into a body of water...and don't cruise control make u less an alert driver as in fallin asleep on long trips?

On ANY vehicle of mine including luxury, all I need is A/C, powered moonroof, tunez and I'm ready to roll.

Scion just need to make those sliding doors have two-levels/-clicks of opening if u will. The first click is the door opened enough for the front passenger to get out. The second click is where either front or rear passeger can push all the way opened. And make the front passenger seat swivels. Keep the stadium seating arrangement.

Don't make it too underpowered. Give me the moonroofs like on concept! hotbox05 or any1 in da know, moonroofs making it to production? Still made in Japan even tho just a US-only vehicle?

SoCal xB owners...how's your stock cars going up the hills...going to...San Diego? Magic Mountain/Grapevine? Cajon Pass I-15? Santa Barbara? What gear are you in (talking 'bout sticks)?

Scion truck 1/4 scale model announced with t2B...
...practical (meaning able to haul 4x8 drywall)??? Or just a "show" truck only (meaning small items like mountain bike, an armchair, whatnot)???
http://trucktrend.com/future/spied/1...news_scion_t2B
http://autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dll/ar...FREE/504040724

 

Wow, I would not sport that.

 

that orange one looks like a Pontiac Aztek

 

Look what I saw today!!!







haha sry for the crappy pix I took them with my cell phone while i was driving on the 405 South.

I also saw this trailing right behind it







Know it's a lexus, but which one?

 

damn nice pics.

 

nice shots

 

Anyone noticed the camo'ed Tundra behind this rumored xB replacement?


I wish the next Scion is a mini-truck like the t2B Cargo.


Peugeot (1007)/Citroen anyone? Gotta love speculation.

 

Yeah, take a look at the car in front of it as well. It's the Lexus from a couple posts up

 

Why didn't you floor it to get a photo of the front?