thejoshman117

Alrighty so here's the deal, I have an '08 xB with TRD springs and the 19" TRD wheels (during the summer) and 16x7's for the winter. My tire sizes don't matter as I'm going to be replacing the tires right away. I'm looking at going a bit lower with some TEIN Stechs but i'm not too experienced when it comes to fitment. I'm guessing running Stechs with 19's will require rolling the fenders and getting some tires with a decent amount of stretch. Is there anything else that I should be aware of? What tire size should I be getting if I want to avoid massive amounts of rubbing? Also, I have 16x7's for winter and I really want to get some new tires for it as the current tires I have on them look like crap and appear very "pudgy". What tire size would I be looking at to get a nice flush or even slightly stretched look keeping in mind the Stechs I plan on getting. I know these topics are covered all over the forums but I just haven't seen anything this specific especially for Stechs.
Anybody with an xB2 with TEIN Stechs please send me or post some pics please!
Thanks

CIONIDE

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The TRD wheels are 19x8 +48 offset. With that high offset you should be fine on S-Techs with 225/35-19 tires.

I need the offset of the 16x7 wheels to be sure, but I'm thinking you'll be fine with OEM size tires (205/55-16) on the S-Tech drop. Do you know the offset, or at least what brand & model of wheel you have?

EMAN44

My 09 on STechs...






Went to a car show in 09 and parked next to a few xB2's with the DF's and NF's and I was def. lower than all of them. Kept getting asked if I was on coils

I also had a set of 19 x 8'' +40 TSW Thruxton with Falken 452 tires on the box while I had the STechs on, and I rubbed the edge of my front fenders on big bumps. Don't have any pics of the 19's as I only had them on for about 2 weeks before selling them...

The only thing I hate with the STechs, but I tend to see them on all the other lowering springs as well, is the rear rake. The rear doesn't go as low as the front! But besides that I loved my STechs, and still have em' in my garage for sale, hint hint

Now I'm rockin' KSports...





Emanuel

CIONIDE

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Do you recall what size tires you were running? The +48 TRD's will sit back from the edge of the fenders almost 1/3" more than your TSW's did. Most people run 235/35 tires on 19x8, so 225/35 combined with the higher offset should help a lot... might not even need to roll the fenders.


Yea, that's why I like the H-Techs; they aren't as low as the S-Techs, but they even out the rake a full 1/2" more. It's also why I went with NF springs instead of DF (Tein weren't available at the time).

EMAN44

225/35/19 all around... pic is not on the xB though, I was rubbing when they were on the xB...the paint is off my fenders to prove it




Emanuel

thejoshman117

Thanks for the awesome replies! My Bridgestone Prodrive GC-05A's are 16x7 +43. I think I'm going to go down to 18"s for summer with a bigger lip, less offset and definitely wider (probably 8" in the front and 9" in the back). Emanuel! Thanks for the pics, I see your rocking the Home Depot lip kit like me! PM sent! And thanks for the info Cionide! I'm running 205/60-16 at the moment but I might want to go even lower than 55's. Thanks again!

CIONIDE

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So he may need just a tad bit of fender rolling up front, if the extra 1/3" of offset clearance isn't enough.

CIONIDE

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You're welcome. Keep in mind that as you go down in profile you will lose ground clearance along with the lower sidewall height... not the best idea if these are winter snow tires/wheels.

thejoshman117

Alright, I've made up my mind and I'm staying with the TRD springs. I am looking at new summer wheels though as my TRDs don't give me the stance I want. I can get some Riverside Stich 5x114.3 18x8+44 18x9+38 for $500. Epic deal considering that includes the shipping from Japan. I'm just wondering what kind of tires I would have to run with those? I'm also guessing I'll have to roll my fenders. Thanks for all the responses, I'll post pics if and when I get them! (want to powdercoat the centers bronze)

Greg S

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I doubt you'd have to roll at all with those offsets. I'm running 18 x 8 +40 all around and didn't have to roll front or rear. The rear with the 9" and +38 might get close but still don't think you'll need to roll with the TRD springs. Tires I'd say a 225/45 would be fine. I'll let CIONIDE chime in to be sure.

CIONIDE

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225/40-18 front
235/40-18 rear

Like Greg said, you shouldn't need to roll the fenders, if you're staying with the TRD springs.

Perfection

Hows the ride quality on the s tech's compared to tanabe df's?
im debating to go with either one

CIONIDE

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The spring rates are softer on the DF's, which will give better ride quality in a straight line, but will also allow more body roll and lean when transitioning through corners. If you want a softer ride go with the DF's, if you want better handling balance then go with the S-Tech's. It's all a trade-off and compromise, the decision is yours.

https://www.scionlife.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=157339
Brand and Model Drop Rate (inches, Front/Rear) Spring Rate (kg/mm, Front/Rear) Nature
Tanabe DF210 1.7/2.1 -- 2.4/2.7 Progressive
Tein S-Tech 1.7/2.2 -- 3.1/4.1 Progressive

EMAN44

+1 to what Cionide said, the Tein's are a tad firmer, but they ride great! I've had them on 3 of my cars up to the xB2. I say go with the Tein's and buy mine for a great deal!



Emanuel

Kingshawty12

Emanuel when are your wheels coming in! and rubbing all depends on offset if it hasnt already been mentioned but i have heard of people rubbing with the 19in TRD's on k-sport coils though... I want to get s-techs for the stiffer spring rate but im not really sure if its stiff enough to save the fenders if hellaflush.

Perfection

thanks for advice guys!
so what if i plan on getting rims later on down the line
like 17's, would the df's have a problem with them rubbing against my fender or should i go with the s techs with a stiffer rate?

CIONIDE

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You're welcome; we're here to help.

No problem running with the DF's if you want the softer ride, that's why I went with the NF's, I just didn't want as much drop as the DF's offer.

Rubbing is all a function of wheel width, offset, and tire size. You could run 17's 18's or even 19's without rubbing as long as width, offset, and tires are properly coordinated.

When you're ready for wheels, and find ones you like, then we can look at what will work for your set-up.

Perfection

thanks ill let you guys know when i find some wheels that i want,
as for now i think im gonna get some df's!

CIONIDE

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Go for it, putting on the NF springs was the very first mod I did, and so glad I did it.