Why on earth would they put HIDs on a 16k car? Makes ZERO sense. HIDs alone would probably push the price to at least 16.4-16.6...

 

^ My thoughts exactly. If anything, I would love to have them offer an option for projector headlights + HIDs instead of slapping them on the car. Some of these things being requested will push the car way too high in price for the market they're trying to attract.

 

why wouldn't they? and if it was an option that pushed up the price only $400?? i'd be sold! HIDS are lower maintenance, better visibility, and consume less power, on top of looking nicer. but then again, whats the point of this entire thread? adding anything on the car, standard or optional, is going to raise the price.

you dont think that the arm rest, height-adjustable seat, factory fog light option (or at least the damn wiring) you want isnt going to bump up the price? why on earth would a 16k car have a height-adjustable seat? makes ZERO sense.

 

More than that, the cost of building projectors + oem quality headlights would push the base price of the car above it's target market.

As a base model, the XD represents more value than any other car I can think of.

 

so i ask again, whats the point of this thread then if price is such a concern? isnt part of scions marketing campaign customization? if you want more stuff for the same price, youre going to have to give up something else.

the original topic was features people would like to see on the 2009 model. naturally, the price is going to go up if you want more standard features.

and said features would include available factory options, like an option for HIDs. HIDs have been available in the past on a 16k car, like the mazda3. its not an out-of-this-world concept.

and i think you are right, garage, the xD definitely provides more value than any other car I could find. even after adding some available options, its an awesome bang for your buck.

its still irritating as hell not having variable intermittent wipers...

 

HIDs would easily add 2g to the starting price, not 400 or 600. OEM HID quality is no where near comparison to ebay ones and Toyota would have to develop a different set of light assemblies to contain the HIDs and make it safe (No glare, etc). Also since HIDs are a hot item for thieves, expect a rise in insurance prices also. The Mazda3 only has HIDs on the GT model which starts at 20g, so thats no real comparison.
Wouldn't mind seeing it as an option but it would defeat the whole purpose of the pricing on the xD to be a stock item.

 

like i already said, HIDs have been available on past models, and for a whole lot less than $2000... mazda sold the 3 (5-door )with an msrp of $16895 in 2004. HIDs were an option on any of the models, not just the 'GT', which was model name for the wagon in canada at that time. the HIDs were part of a package that was $700, and included, again, were talking 2004 here, the non-standardized TPMS.

as stated, equipment code 1XT, "Xenon and TPMS Package for $700:

http://media.ford.com/pdf/Mazda/04Mazda3_pricing.pdf

and if you read into it further, the xenon package required the ABS package, but since ABS is standard already on the xD, you wouldnt have to shell out the extra $800 for that package.

and AGAIN, i would like to have had HIDs as an OPTION. that way, for everyone whos so fussy about the price, well god almighty, wouldnt HAVE to purchase it, and others can still have the option to customize.

 

Do you know by chance is the Mazda 3 GT and other Mazdas with projectors share the same housings, or across years? That is probably why it is offered. Technology sharing, less cost to offer it versus for just an xD


That's fair.

 

Interesting, only a few mentions of a sun roof....

I would pay for that option.

 

a sunroof would be a nice option, but would raise the price too high. same with the HID option. i do agree that the XD is a really good value, but i don't think its out of this world to ask for a seat height adjuster or armrest. that wouldnt raise the price much. the base yaris sedan comes with it so i would figure they wouldve put it in the XD. its still a great car regardless.

 

2004 yes, new models only offer the HID system on the s GT model : http://www.mazdausa.com/MusaWeb/disp...ehicleCode=M3S
and its only standard on s GT models and not available as an option for the others.

 

I'm guessing Toyota cut a few corners here and there to keep a good price and offer things like the side curtain airbags, power locks, abs etc stock and neglected the height adjustment / arm rest

 

yes, this is true for the '08s... but my whole point was that 2004 was the first model year of the 3, so obviously there was no 'technology sharing' to reduce the pricing. and i do not think the housings were the same as the regular halogens because the aiming of the HIDs could be electrically adjusted from inside the car, just like power mirrors... and yet Mazda, aka FORD, was able to offer these for $700. Im pretty sure toyota can do anything ford can, and then some.

Our dealer had an option to get a sunroof installed, but they wanted $1200 for the aftermarket installation. from what the dealer said (how much of this is true, i dunno) a sunroof would have had too much of an impact on the side curtain air bag assemblies, or something of the like, to make it profitable as a factory option.

and i think its been discussed before, but sometimes this car at 70mph feels like it could use another gear.

 

but when you look at Fords profitability, you realize why they don't offer it anymore ; )

 

with toyotas profitability, and a car marketed toward customization, i wonder why they don't offer a similair option, even if it was slightly more expensive.

 

Go buy a Lexus IS250 and shut up already. Oh, you don't want to spend 40k? Well crap, don't expect the xD to come with HIDs. Now, if you want to get REALISTIC...how about some PROJECTOR headlights. That'd make it five times easier to retrofit some HIDs. Would that make you happy? Face it, if the tC doesn't have HIDs, the xD isn't going to have HIDs. Get real.

 

wow ... so back on topic ...
I'd like the variable speed wipers and adjustable seats, outside temp display like everyone else said ...

I'd also like to loose the swiss cheese grils and go back to the plastic honeycombs.

Possibly, factory option to color match the center waterfall. It's already BSP, why not offer the other colors as well?

I may be alone in this opinion, but I'd like one of those shark fin antennas instead of our stubby

Projecter headlights would be nice.

Maybe a stock alloy wheel or alloy option thats actually readily available, or even just put tC or Matrix wheels in the Scion offerings. As much as I love those TRD wheels in black, I cant fathom 2k for them

The digital hvac controls from the ist

center consol standard

All weather floor mats standard

a "premium" audio pacakge, likened to the tC's current audio packaging with the small hidewaway sub


FREE HAIL DAMAGE AND CURB RASH REPAIR FOR LIFE!!!!

 

the variable wipers would be nice too. i never thought about the center water fall thingy. good idea lol, but i dont want to get too carried away. i would be content with the seat height and the armrest standard.

those digital hvac controls that the ist have are pretty cool. japan gets so many more cool features than we get, but that would make the price sky rocket if they brought it over here like that

 

transponder key would a sensible feature.

 

amazing... simply amazing... here is some help with that 'option' word:

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/option (see definition 3b)


though im not quite sure why they would put projectors on a 16k car, i also think the outside temperature display would be nice. and hopefully the rear XRS discs fit without too much trouble.

does the center console waterfall look like it would be difficult to take off? i havent looked at it yet, but it would probably be pretty easy to have it painted or do it yourself. it would look nice color matched to the car, at least for the darker colors. not sure about red or white though, id have to see it.

i also wish the base radio had the capability to display song/artist info broadcast from radio stations.