I did three pulls on a chassis dyno at a friends BMW race shop today.
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Power hungry at least not for a while.

What kind of Fuel management you running?

Yea he has pics on his website link... anyways that pretty cool what psi are you pushin?

man 11 lbs of boost......thats insane for these motors what internal work did you have done? fuel?

I think 21% might be a little high for your estimations. I'd just say 143 fwhp since that's as accurate as you can get. Everything else is just an estimate.

Either way, great job! Way to work over a 1.5L. :clap:

Posted up a pic of me on the dyno. I will scan my dyno sheet in the morning and post it up. They had a neon srt4 to pull a 441hp.

Thanks for the great info. Man, I want to do that to my box. Is there any difficult mods you half to do, or can a shop just install everything?

Awesome. You know, I was actually bidding on that kit last year, then you bought it instead. I am happy for you.

We'll have to meet up one of these years, all of us boosted folks, and I can show you guys what kind of ridiculous ____ I have going on :)

nice buddy. did you get that clutch in? put it on a track now, i wanna see what it pulls

Hey matchbox,
What's your best track time? 1/8? 1/4?

You should have seen my grin when I pulled on the dyno. Kinda makes all the engine work worth it. Like the 1st place trophies to show how much you have spent on your money pit.

The PE300 only adds a new high flow fuel pump and a fuel pressure regulator in the tank. You then run a vacuum line up front to the pressure relief valve and to the pressure side of the TB. I may add a S-AFCII just have to many projects in the works at the moment.

I did a 10.62 with just the supercharger in the 1/8th last fall. I haven't got to run since my header install. The races they had today were street races. Straight from yellow to green no tree action like I'm use to. Plus it was cold and couldn't get traction. Just kept getting wheel hop off the line. I want to get down to Rockingham to a 1/4 mile track. The 1/8 mile sucks it's like stop light to stoplight.

I did get my SPEC stage 3 clutch installed and its killer. No more slip when I get on it. If any of you are in the NC area and need an install I have a killer hook up on labor from a friend. Toyota wanted $400. My friend does it for $280.

The PE300 never met Brians reserve on eBay. I offered him $1600 over nighted from Cali and he took it. It takes about 7 hours to install. I did it myself it's fairly simple. The local shop rates are $700 to install it. I would help install it if anybody gets one. What a great way to waste a day.

nice run on the dyno...i am going in the next few weeks...i'll post up to compare notes...

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We need motor pics. :pray:

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Thats what we wanted to see. :clap: :clap:

Very nice, when can I take it for a drive? :lalala:

I can't wait to see your new 1/8 time (and hopefully a 1/4 time) with the header and new clutch.

With just an intake/header/exhaust (res-back) setup, I run a 10.623 (versus your 10.625) in the 1/8 mile. I wouldn't doubt the tracks weren't calibrated the same, though...

holy hell my buddy ran a 10.9 with just a injen short ram intake with his box. Would love to see the 1/4th though.

I am also running 34 lbs 19"s. I also have a stereo in the back. I think the xA is a little lighter. When I turned the 10.62 it was 95 degrees with about 70% humidity as usual in the Carolinas in the summer time. I need to get to the track to get my RT down I think I had 1 sec or more. Was sleeping. The other time on my timeslip was a xB with an intake and catback. 11.937
This was with just the SC no header yet.
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I am also running 34 lbs 19"s. I also have a stereo in the back. I think the xA is a little lighter. When I turned the 10.62 ut was 95 degrees with about 70% humidity as usual in the Carolinas in the summer time. I need to get to the track to get my RT down I think I had 1 sec or more. Was sleeping.
Don't get me wrong. I'm not trying to pee in your corn flakes. I'm hoping you do much better the next time around at the track. With the reaction times...were you bracket racing?

damn, you should loose the rims, get some 16"s and a fiberglass box

nevermind about the bracket racing question...slips tell the tale.

Well its half fiberglass.........Looking into some Axis maglites to race with.

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how did you take a pic under my hood.... :tap:

Also have two HID ballast mounted behind the grill now. :silly:

yea I think its time to but some 16 or 17 lightwieght wheels...maglites will be good. Maybe some stickier tires. Should see a big difference.

Prob took the pic when your hood was open all day :-) Man was it cold out there!! Great dyno pull.....that was the last thing I stuck around for. I like the LAmbo doors too........does anyine know of someone doing suicide doors?

I'm headed to a chassis dyno Monday to get a couple pulls in in 4th gear as it is a 0.9:1 gear as 3rd is a 1.31:1. Plus I was making boost at redline in 3rd.

with the 1/8th mile ETs and trap speeds that you posted, youre on par to hit mid to high 16s.

If youre really running on 19s, thats seriously killing you. Id really like to see what you could do with some 16 inch wheels.

what's causing that huge torque dip?

Matchbox, you are my HERO!!

I never considered boost at all till I saw your dyno chart.

I'm so floored by how good that looks. I just don't have the skills to do all that
myself, I'd have to take it to someone to do the work.

Oh man I so want 150HP at the wheels now...I'd *so* be arrested though! LOL

man congrats on the upgrade.. so their is hope for our boxes out there huh?

We really need to see the longevity of the moter after this
boost takes it's toll on the box. That is a major worry of mine,
as my box is the daily driver with my Porsche 924S being
out of comission.

what's causing that huge torque dip?

there is no torque on that dyno sheet....

its HP and MPH...the dip would be a shift....

I have seen Matchbox's Xb up close. It is awesome!!!
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Did you have your Scion at the Piedmont show Sciond?

what's causing that huge torque dip?

there is no torque on that dyno sheet....

its HP and MPH...the dip would be a shift....
Ah...that makes sense now... :doh: :rofl:

hey, nice setup u got. Is that the GReddy kit? What did u use for fuel management etc., do u have any technical info about the install etc.?

hey, nice setup u got. Is that the GReddy kit?
greddy is a turbo kit....if you look at the picture you can see this is belt driven...

i know it's a S/C lol, i was just wondering what kit it was for the 1nz-fe. it's not the blitz kit cause that looks totally different. i thought GReddy made a T/C and a S/C for our engines

look at the picture, the answer is there....

Was reading online last night that the Mustang portable dyno is off by 18% (low) hehe. Io guess I'll find out Monday at the chassis dyno.

see if you can get a hp/rpm chart done...
and hp, torque / rpm would be best...

see if you can get a hp/rpm chart done...
and hp, torque / rpm would be best...

hp and tq vs. rpm would be greatly appreciated. :)

i know it's a S/C lol, i was just wondering what kit it was for the 1nz-fe. it's not the blitz kit cause that looks totally different. i thought GReddy made a T/C and a S/C for our engines

It is the Power Enterprises PE300 supercharger kit for the USDM xB (1nz-fe engine).

KiL

ok, i don't own a scion but i have the same engine as u all do, that's why i haven't heard of this kit, thanks for the info tho.

doe's it come with a new ECU or what is used for fuel management?

ok, i don't own a scion but i have the same engine as u all do, that's why i haven't heard of this kit, thanks for the info tho.

doe's it come with a new ECU or what is used for fuel management?
no ecu, no tuning...just a fuel pump to compensate...
if you have the same motor but not a scion.
did you ever check out this site....
http://www.echodrivers.com/forums/index.php
real good site.

lol thanks for the link, but OF COURSE i'm on that site lol, some 2200 posts so far since last year. i just browse over here cause u Scion guys are more likely to put on S/C and T/C then us over there. only ppl on that forum with any T/C etc. live in Puerto Rico or some other crazy country, and they have completely custom set-ups. u guys are actually buying kits made for our engine. just trying to see where u all are going so i can build up my 1nzfe :)

what fuel pump did u go to? how big is it etc.? did u swap it out with the stock one? do you guys scion's have the same fuel pump assembly thing like us echo owners have?

The fuel pump and fuel regulator are added inside the tank. The fuel pump replaces the stock one. I cant recall the flow on the fuel pump. You also add a vaccum line up to the front.

wow is are car really that fast or is it all a dream ...

You should make a video of you revving or some 0-60 videos. Or next time you go to the track record your run. What kind of time are you looking at for 0-60?

im wondering what this motor can do fully built running 15-20 PSI with a turbo, but i have not heard of anyone building these motors yet. I was considering a turbo or s/c till i heard all the motor problems running only 7 psi, im guessing the longivity is GREATLY reduced.

If your worried about engine life. Leave it stock. We just finished a turbo on a Subaru and the guy wants to take it back off. I've been through a twin turbo 3000 a Dakota R/T with a 360 and a few others. I havent left a single one untouched. What good is a car if you don't drive it or mod it.

i missed this thread!

drool on the hp increase! congrats!

If your worried about engine life. Leave it stock. We just finished a turbo on a Subaru and the guy wants to take it back off. I've been through a twin turbo 3000 a Dakota R/T with a 360 and a few others. I havent left a single one untouched. What good is a car if you don't drive it or mod it.

thats my way of thinking too.

Hopefully if the weather clears some I can shoot some videos of Matchbox running 1/4's tomarrow at the Rock.

Just posted up my new dyno sheet from this morning.

i got some lightweight 19's im trying to get rid of hit me up!

how light???

lightweight 19's that's an oxymoron , lol.

18lbs motegi trak lites!!!!! and yes they are 19's!

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Nice graph. A/F looks good, tq isn't increadibly peaky (impressive for a centerfugal s/c), and the hp curve is nice and linear.
Sweet!


BTW, your wheels look great. :bow:

The A/F is a little lean for F/I especially on a 10.5:1 motor... a/f's should be between 11-12 for F/I.

I wouldn't be surprised if the knock sensor is pulling some timing... hmmm..

Nice anyhow :)

The A/F is a little lean for F/I especially on a 10.5:1 motor... a/f's should be between 11-12 for F/I.

I wouldn't be surprised if the knock sensor is pulling some timing... hmmm..

Nice anyhow :)

Interesting point. I was thinkin' the A/F was ok 'cause the sniffer is sitting behind a cat. Wouldn't that make the reading appear lean, when in actuality it's ok?

Good catch. It'd be fun to pump in a little extra fuel at WOT and see what it does to the power.

Sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet. Id like to see a match between a supercharged xb and a turbo xb... hehe

That is totally cool! It has got to be the ultimate performance mod for the xb. Any 0-60 times?

No 0-60 times as of yet. I can tell you that getting on highway by the end of the ramp I'm flying. Also, at the end of 2nd gear Im hitting 5omph or so, and that comes real quick.

Thanks for the info. ".............i'm flying..........." That's what I like to hear! BTW, is your BX and auto or stick? Does the tranny being an auto affect the use of the supercharger? How does it become activated?

I have an auto and I seriously considering getting the Blitz or this model.


Thanks

its not activated...its running the entire time...you will loose some over the stick couterpart...

but it will still be far better than stock...

and your MPG will drop too...might want to hold off till gas prices settle down a bit...

I see.......thanks for the info! :P

OMG WTF? thats slow as balls! my 2000 echo ran a 10.6@66mph with a muffler and a shotty weapon-r intake @ 1350ft above sea-level

what i'm waiting to see is how long his engine will last. I never had a fast car...so i'm not really bummed out on 96 hp to the wheels. i drove a 1978 vw BUS. i had about 60hp to the wheels. but i would enjoy being te fastest scion in my area!

OMG WTF? thats slow as balls! my 2000 echo ran a 10.6@66mph with a muffler and a shotty weapon-r intake @ 1350ft above sea-level in the 1/8th mile? thats no way in hell a 1/4 mile time ???? that's way faster than an echo i've ever seen

OMG WTF? thats slow as balls! my 2000 echo ran a 10.6@66mph with a muffler and a shotty weapon-r intake @ 1350ft above sea-level in the 1/8th mile? ???? that's way faster than an echo i've ever seen
someone needs a enema up his butt dyno :rofl:

OMG WTF? thats slow as balls! my 2000 echo ran a 10.6@66mph with a muffler and a shotty weapon-r intake @ 1350ft above sea-level in the 1/8th mile? thats no way in hell a 1/4 mile time ???? that's way faster than an echo i've ever seen
if hes's talking about a 1/4 mile track his speed is way low....

i suggest he save up some money so he can buy a clue....

1/8th mile here fellas....as i was referring to the 1/8th miles posted that the s/c xb ran... i mean come on does that even look like a 1/4th mile time? im just in disbelief that you spend that amount of cash to be stuck in deep 16 second land...baffling! For nearly the same amount of cash..ide do nitrous, bolt ons...rods and high comp pistons..and a 100-125 shot...and be an arse load faster...and be just as fast or faster off the juice as well.

awesome

I'd like to see how long the motor lasts at this point. I'd love
to do an S/C or Turbo on my box, keep up with the Mini
Cooper-S which was my other option (But too expensive
for me).

As far as money spent on the PE300. I got it for $1200 overnighted from Cali. Pocket change. I wouldn't have paid the three gs to get this. The SC makes a big difference over stock. The tC is somewhere around 150 lbs heavier than our cars so the 150hp they have is having to make up for the weight difference. I saw a xB with an exhaust and intake on it leave a tC. I have been running this since last fall and have only had one problem with a needle bearing and PE replaced the SC for free. Patrick at PE has been very helpful with everything.

wow $1200..... overnited... i wonder how much it is if its picked up??? hmmmmm ...

It was sponsored.

Retail costs for the PE supercharger is around $2800-3000 depending on area.

As far as money spent on the PE300. I got it for $1200 overnighted from Cali. Pocket change. I wouldn't have paid the three gs to get this. The SC makes a big difference over stock. The tC is somewhere around 150 lbs heavier than our cars so the 150hp they have is having to make up for the weight difference. I saw a xB with an exhaust and intake on it leave a tC. I have been running this since last fall and have only had one problem with a needle bearing and PE replaced the SC for free. Patrick at PE has been very helpful with everything.tc's weigh more than that.

I've been waivering back and forth between super charger and turbo. But, I've always been a turbo fan and recently have been leaning more toward turbo. But man......for $1200.......I would snag that kit in a minute.

KiL

OH HE WAS SPONSORED.... OH THAT WOULD EXPLAIN THE PRICE... opps...

i thought the price was a bit too low

As far as money spent on the PE300. I got it for $1200 overnighted from Cali. Pocket change. I wouldn't have paid the three gs to get this. The SC makes a big difference over stock. The tC is somewhere around 150 lbs heavier than our cars so the 150hp they have is having to make up for the weight difference. I saw a xB with an exhaust and intake on it leave a tC. I have been running this since last fall and have only had one problem with a needle bearing and PE replaced the SC for free. Patrick at PE has been very helpful with everything.tc's weigh more than that.
yup~

Curb wieght of a tC is around 2950 while the xB is 2400. A difference of more than 500lbs.

wow ..i would have never thought the TC out weighed the XB....

Not to ____ on anyones fire here, but my car was slower with the K&N Typhoon than it was stock. It did a best of 16.7 on a GTECH stock, best of 17.2 on a GTECH w/ the K&N Typhoon.

The guy that drove the tC against the intake/exhaust xB must have been drunk. Theres no way an xB with bolt-ons will take a tC with even SEMI equally skilled drivers. I have a friend that ran his 100% STOCK tC 5 speed @ NY Raceway and did 15.55@89mph.

I love my xB, however. I believe in my own heart that it is a much better looking vehicle and I would not trade it for a tC EVER.

As far as my boosted xB vs a stock or bolt-on tC... They can try if they want, but they have not a chance :P

I got my PE300 from an individual. They put it on their xB for a week and their parents bought them a new Mitsubishi Lancer EVO. Thats how I got it so cheap.

Ok, so how about a 1/4 mile time. I ran a 16.26 in the 1/8 on stock tires, with just an injen short ram intake. I'd like to think spending 3 large on a super charger would reduce that time. Are you an automatic? With my 19's on I had crazy wheel hop and ran a 10.6. Stock tires hopped a little but I got a much better 60ft time. I haven't ran it in the 1/4 mile yet, waiting on a few more items before I go back to racing it.

That is totally cool! It has got to be the ultimate performance mod for the xb. Any 0-60 times?

if it's taking him 10 seconds to finish the 1/8 mile, the 0-60 time is probably high 8s or low 9s.


unless you're talking about 0-60 foot times, then I'd guess 2.3-2.6, but that's just a guess.

I ran a 16.26 in the 1/8 on stock tires, with just an injen short ram intake.

:clap: turn the car around and take it out of reverse.

16.26 1/8th mile? omg thats insanely slow i've run 16.0 in the 1/4 with bolt ons and a sub box(small and lightweight but still).

Not to ____ on anyones fire here, but my car was slower with the K&N Typhoon than it was stock. It did a best of 16.7 on a GTECH stock, best of 17.2 on a GTECH w/ the K&N Typhoon.

The guy that drove the tC against the intake/exhaust xB must have been drunk. Theres no way an xB with bolt-ons will take a tC with even SEMI equally skilled drivers. I have a friend that ran his 100% STOCK tC 5 speed @ NY Raceway and did 15.55@89mph.

I love my xB, however. I believe in my own heart that it is a much better looking vehicle and I would not trade it for a tC EVER.

As far as my boosted xB vs a stock or bolt-on tC... They can try if they want, but they have not a chance :PI can hang with trd exh manual tc's they beat me but i give them a good run , i can stay dead even with cat backed auto tc's. I only have bolt ons as of yet.

how fast is it? 1/8 mile thats for short geared vw bugs,busand giea 1/4 mile i like the power and all but really how fast is whats counts.if it makes 1.5 hp and rus 12s its all about how fast

how is your mpg affected?

sen-

it dropped like a rock...

Is it still decent relative to other cars on the road? do you average around 26? that wouldnt be a problem for me

21-22...

that sucks :(

thats the price for horse power...

i am changing my gears to help out this problem....