TCSTYLING

You guys are making me really consider getting a honda si now. STOP IT. I want more power too, we'll see how much they are when they come out.

Nick06tC

I like the old SI. From around 2000

Fm_Tc_In_Ma

I like the SI swimsuit issue.

TimmyT

Here is all the information you would want to know on specifications. Not by edmonds... not by a 3rd party source but from Honda.
http://www.hondanews.com/CatID2015?m...58648&mime=asc

and as you can see. the tC still has shorter gears.

The RSX-S is clearly a better buy. weighs less, More hp, more torque.. and suprisingly cost about the same

http://www.hondanews.com/CatID3023?m...68070&mime=asc

06 Civic SI = teh suck. It does outperform the NA tC, but it doesn't out perform its big brother the RSX-S and cost the same. So hey g'head and get on the Vic Band Wagon. NA tC < 06 Vic SI < RSX-S (by performance)
Vic SI < RSX-S < NA tC (By bang for your buck) and the tC is below the 20k mark. NOW you wanna go with cars in the 20k+ range
Vic SI < RSX-S< Cobalt Supercharged < Neon SRT-4 (Suprisingly it goes the same for bang for your buck and performance.)

prospectclmt

jlaznlover

good luck with the new SI. the increase of weight in civic's in the last few years is sad. the low curb weight of the civic is what made them so appealing to me.

Soo.... you want to sell me your RS1.0 grill before you get the SI??? :D

ack154

iTrader: (7)

ANOTHER SI thread? Come on people...

Moved.

prospectclmt

Sorry expressing my opinions.

LucidBD

i say this is just weeding out the ricers from the people who choose to be different and apart of something bigger, A Scion Community.

thats what i think. maybe not what you think

so those who choose to switch to the "Darkside".....good luck and have fun with your deathstars!(figurativly speaking)

hahaitzskippy

06 civic si = k20a2 or shoud i say the 01-04 RSX type S

did any of you know this?

and do you know how powerful this engine is?

for all those who doubt this car.... all i can say is. ITS FAST!

anyways

haha i could be all fluff, bag of hot air, or talking outta my ___

i love my TC and thats that! :D

Ranthese

noticed the civic automatic gets better mileage than the manual, 40 vs 38. i should've gotten an auto with gas prices these days...

corey415

Actually, the 06 Civic Si engine is not the k20a2.

The engine is actually called the K20Z3. A major difference is that the Si engine has a balance shaft, so that the engine runs smoother throughout the powerband. Also, the engine has similar cams with the K20Z1, the 05-06 RSX-S engine.

Regardless, the 06 Si engine appears to be the best K series engine available in America.

firesquare

That honda is wicked hothands down, but i wouldnt trade a 1.0 for it

TimmyT

Eh the k is pretty hot. but still not a good as te 1.8l redtop from the Integra type R. 198 ponies out of the 1.8l and I think it even had a higher torque value.

corey415

The B18C from the type r had 130 peak ft lbs @ 7000 rpm, which is less than the K20Z3. Also, considering that the 06 Si specs are rated with the new SAE standard, that means the Si engine fares even better. In terms of hp/liter, yeah the B18C is technically "better", but I would think a person like you would prefer the richer torque curve found in the Si engine.

Btw there is a better K series engine, but it's only for japan. Its the k20a for the type r integra (rsx) which has 220 ps.

LaMbO_tC

sux 2 think im sayin dis 2..but i got a rs1 wit lambos from the factory which was a huge part in my decision 2 buy the car. if not I probably wud hav never bought it belive it or not I was set on the 05 rsx-s or impreza ..and im really contemplatin whether or not 2 buy the new si even tho ive always drove and ownd toyota....if our cars even had gt-s motors and weighed less than the late model celica Id never sell it for a civic but at the moment I dont get my speed fix and I chose 2 just go for show with this car and save gas instead...wierd but man i heard the video clip on templeofvtec and that car sounds sick out the box i just dont like the front styling at all the tc is a way better looking car in my opinion and im sure its not going to be near as spacious

LaMbO_tC

sux 2 think im sayin dis 2..but i got a rs1 wit lambos from the factory which was a huge part in my decision 2 buy the car. if not I probably wud hav never bought it belive it or not I was set on the 05 rsx-s or impreza ..and im really contemplatin whether or not 2 buy the new si even tho ive always drove and ownd toyota....if our cars even had gt-s motors and weighed less than the late model celica Id never sell it for a civic but at the moment I dont get my speed fix and I chose 2 just go for show with this car and save gas instead...wierd but man i heard the video clip on templeofvtec and that car sounds sick out the box i just dont like the front styling at all the tc is a way better looking car in my opinion and im sure its not going to be near as spacious

Fm_Tc_In_Ma

What factory?

TimmyT

Well although the torque is greater on the larger k20, its only 9 at the crank in a car that weighs a lil over 400 lbs. So the torque is better for the weight of the car. Wich is why I will stand by and say the 1995-98 integra type R was the best sports compact Honda ever produced and actually made it to the USDM.

prospectclmt

i aggree the type-r b18c5 is a great motor. but the k20a type-r is by far a better motor. I've read that a ported b18c5 head cannot flow as much cfm as a stock k20a type-r head........plus ive see a usdm type-s motor handle bolt-ons, and a 120 shot of nos to lay down 330ps to the wheels(stock internals). Toyota is a great manufacturer for motors.......the 4ag, the 3sgte, the 2jzgte.......for example.