Uh, a newer (05- 06) mustang GT will turn high 13's with a good driver bone stock.A base wrx wouldnt have a chance. It does 0-60 in 5.2 sec. Sorry, but you must have been thinking of a V6. The mustangs arent the fastest on the road.. but they are hardly slow.

 

A) A stock WRX will turn high 13s with a good driver too
B) This was a convertible GT, which is a bit slower than the coupe.

Regardless, we gave that thing hell. Tried launching it every way I knew how, from low RPM, high RPM, feathering the clutch and dumping it. Could never seem to get it off the line very fast. It was nowhere near as quick as I was expecting, with 70hp more than a WRX. The Roush Stage 3 was much more interesting.

 

Thats funny, the best time I have ever seen for a base WRX with no mods is mid to semi low 14's.

The GT convertable and regular GT are almost the same weight. I hardly consider a high 13 from a factory, non modded car a "dog" But your wrx that is close, but not faster, was fast? Yet the same performance in the mustang is a dog? I dont get that at all. Sorry.

 

Well no, plenty of people have hit 13.8 or .9 in a base WRX. Especially the 06s which are a bit faster. I think someone on NASIOC hit 13.5 (probably gutted, with ice on the intercooler though) in an 06.

I was in the process of editing my post when you replied since I looked up the GT convertible and it is indeed about 150lbs different from a base GT (which i haven't drove). I'd be interested to hear what the average difference in times is from Mustang forums.

My WRX hasn't been stock for over a year now (indeed, i have over 300hp) so maybe I'm overestimating the car. Or maybe the Mustang wasn't making as much power as it should since it wasn't broken in, etc. Regardless, neither my friend, my other friend at the dealer, or myself was very impressed with that car. And it's all irrelavent to the question that the OP's older car may have been a heavier vert.

 

for you to beat a GT, something had to be up...no offense intended, i love my tC, but i know straight up, it couldn't take a GT

now, maybe he couldn't drive, maybe he had an auto, mayber etc etc etc......

i believe that you did it, but i also think something was up

now a V6...thats a different story...on paper you can't beat it(hp-weight ratios..18.15 for tC, 16.67 for v6, 11.63 for GT), but i have ran against manual v6's on the strip(i have an auto) and he ran 77 MPH at a 10.5 i believe...i ran 66 at 11.15...so a standard would have been much closer(1/8 mile)

but he couldnt drive either(r/t of .5, mine was .1001)

possible yes, probable no....now a trubo or s/c tC....easy

 

Common(and right) sense says no.


Scionlife, and idiot logic says yes.

 

I am going to call BS guys, as just recently I drove the cars back to back. No doubt the GT is slow even a manual but they still have the tC covered. Hell in my slow ___ LT1 I can mess with tCs in 5th gear!

 

i actually took a GT in a light to light race tonight!!!

but he scrubbed the launch....it was bad, dang near stalled, and the explorer behind him was quite impressed.....as was I


and yes i know he would have killed me minus the launch....but a wins a win!!!

 

just because u saw him downshift doesnt mean he is racing... it might have been more of the lines of road rage... i hate when ppl think everything is a race.
OH man this daewoo just downshifted must be a race!...lol

i own a 2000 mustang v6 auto and a 2006 tC auto and he mustang has more power. u can feel it when ur driving. dontget me wrong i love my tC way more but u cant shoot down the mustang, its an american classic.

 

mustang<camaro
camaro<corvette
corvette<porsche

 

You guys are overestimating mustang performance. Since the tC if FWD it's more effecient at transfering power to the wheels and not spinning them, so it's easier to launch. Secondly a V8 engine has more internal inertia to overcome, add in the extra weight of the mustang , and maybe a little poor driving by the mustang driver and a good tC driver could possibly take a GT mustang. I personally took a silver gt mustang just last week by about a car length( topped out at 93mph before the next light, at I35 and 121 for anyone in the DFW area) and I saw an ealier post about some one beating a G35 aswell, which I have also done. Both of these occasions were straight up, undeniable races. You can look at my profile to see my mods. Believe me or don't, but a tC will take a GT Stang off the line. Over 100 mph is a different story tho.

 

That is a horribly uniformed peace of information. FWD is not better at putting power to the ground period. When you npunch a car from a stop the cars weight and mass is transfered to the rear, therefore unloading the front wheels which in a FWD is undesirable. Weight should be tranfered to the powered wheels that way they are less likely to spin. The tC doesnt spin becasue it doesnt make that much power.

I have personally been in highway races where the tC was going ~90-100 ( i know because the driver is right next to me) to my 65 or 70 and by putting it in 3rd and punching it when he is window to window with me, he rarely makes it completely past my car before I overtake him.

 

I'm saying for the average driver. FWD is easier for them to manipulate and control. I hate torque steer and and wheel hop and being raised on RWD I am more comfortable with it, and yes you're right about wanting the weight of the car on the launch wheels, but as I said for the average joe, it will be harder to launch a RWD than it is a FWD, plus, if you don't think a FWD setup is more efficient than why do all the cars with good gas milage us this setup. FWD will deliever more power. IN a RWD setup you loose some over the power during it's journey to the back of the car, so you need a bigger/more powerful engine to compensate. And that tC horrible weight balance (60/40) so all the weight is over the launch wheels, where as a new mustang is 55/45. I still prefer RWD over FWD because it's more fun to push than pull, unless your drive a little red wagon with radio flyer on the side. But i'm not arguing FWD vs RWD, all I'm saying is a tC will beat a GT Stang.

 

* Can beat a GT stang, not "will" lol...

 

Sorry but anyone that thinks that FWD is better for drag racing for any type of driver is just misinformed. No offense intended, but that is just the truth.

A FWD is the WORST platform for any type of high performance driving. Yes, it loses less to the ground.. but the entire physics of the car are WAY worse for launching than a RWD. Weight transfer alone on launch makes the RWD superior.

A FWD has more wheel hop, tq steer and terrible weight transfer.. so how is a RWD harder to launch for anyone?

And again.. as I have said again and again. A STOCK GT will pull high 13's, which a lot of boosted tCs are doing. A stock tC pulls mid to mildly low 15's with a good driver and good tires. I still cant get, with that knowledge, how anyone can say that a car that is 1.5 seconds faster can somehow magically be beat given equal drivers????? There is no arguing.. a tC will not beat the new mustang GT period without boost.

 

i literally spit up my beer through my nose, and i love my tC. (i assume you were goofing because you are comparing 160 hp to 300hp). if you weren't...let me just add i'd disagree with your post as i've driven both cars.

 

^^It's possible. TRD exhaust adds about 50 BHP.

 

I never said FWD was superior for racing, I said for the average joe it is easier to drive... lol. And another lol for mentioning wheel hop and tq steer after I already pointed that out as a flaw in FWD. Another thing, my car, is not stock, but it's not heavily modded either, CAI, Exhaust, and CC short shifter thats it. And the plain and simple fact is I'm not claiming to have beat a mustang GT, I Did beat a mustang GT( twice, on two seperate occasions, and ironically the same area, Maybe even the same guy). We could argue this all day back and forth because there's no way of verifying either side, but I'm telling you what I've seen and what I know. And finally one last "lol" because I said I wasn't out to argue FWD vs RWD (because I'm all for RWD, it's undoubtedly the best setup, and I can't wait to get rid of my tC because of it's FWD Setup, I wanted a Camaro SS but for insurance purposes went with the tC) I was mearly stating I've beat a Mustang GT. Period.

 

shouldn't this get moved too Autosports & Technique???

 

why yes, yes it should john. thanks.