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Old Aug 22, 2006 | 03:05 AM
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Originally Posted by 02_Stang
Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
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(. I never said NO TC WILL EVER TOUCH A GT,

Face the truth man, you did not, nor will you ever beat a Mustang GT 99 +. It's just not happening. Even FI I can't see you beating a GT

I guess that wasn't you that just wrote that a few post back...
You going to answer the questions or no?

Tell you what, I'll simplify it for you.

Which number is greater - 260 or 160???

Also, 302 or 163???

Stock for stock ...?

RUH ROH!

Put $3,000 into both of them and who wins?

poop, put $3,000 into the Scion and the GT will still win


Here, I'll make it easier for you too..

Y
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U

A
R
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Get over it dude..
Old Aug 22, 2006 | 03:05 AM
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Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
Originally Posted by 02_Stang
Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
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Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
Originally Posted by 02_Stang
Don't worry, I read your sig. The fact that you haven't posted times with your "SUPER COOL MODS" leads me to believe thats the best you can get out of that car.FYI, my friend with a 2002 GT runs 11.08 1/4 mile, my friends dad with a '03 Cobra runs 11.99 1/4 mile, and my friend with a 2000 V6 runs a 13.1 1/4 mile.

Lets see a Scion do that? Lets face the facts -

STOCK FOR STOCK -

1999 - 2004 GT =
260 HP
302 TQ
$25,000

2005 Scion tC =
160 HP
163 TQ

Sorry buddy, but H/I/NO EXHAUST will NEEEVER take ANY 99+ GT, or most 99+ V6's. Even the V6 outmaches you 193 HP and 225 TQ. You need to learn a little bit about cars. Yes, I know what N/A means. I know what F/I means. I've forgotten more than you will ever know. When you wake up from your fantasy land you will realize your car is a slow P.O.S. and you should have bought the LS1 or the GT. For you to sit there and say ANY Scion will beat ANY GT stock, OR with just headers and intake you are SAAAAADLY mistaken. Why not take some classes on cars?

BTW, to whoever said FWD > RWD you are WAAAAY wrong. I can tell some of you know your stuff, but alot of you are incompetent morons (Present company included).


You read my sig...Riiiiighht. If you did, you wouldn't have tried to capitalize on the fact is says "OLD TIMES N/A'ed".......

Oh, and gotta love the...."Well, my brothers-cousins-aunts-sisters-dad" has a GT that does XX amount of time in the 1/4... Your really starting to crack me up now. Lets get one thing straight, your the one that came on here popping off at the mouth about how a tC will (as you put it) NEVER be able to hang with a GT... You also mentioned not eve F/I tC's can take out a GT... Both of the cars that we own will walk all over you dude, and yet I'm the one in Fantasy land...

Here, go try this vid on for size:

http://www.zeropointindustries.net/gallery/videos/ZPI2
YOU brought up F/I AND your car, BUDDY. I said with an SC and a few other select mods you could hang with a stock GT, which is true. But why put that much money into it? I don't understand ... you end up paying more money to make your car AS FAST as a GT than you would just buying a GT or another car of a comperable speed. I figured that people didn't buy tC's or any other Scion's to soup them up ... One of my friends will be getting an SC for his Scion, we will see how he fairs ...

I simply brought up the fact that with his mods he was NOT hanging with a GT, and BARELY beating a V6. I then proceeded to say that with a few select mods he could HANG with a GT.

Quiz - (Without google)

What is Horsepower?

What is torque?

UDP?

CAI?

t-lok?

4.10?

If you can answer all of that WITHOUT using google I will be so proud of you . Face it, it took you what, 4,000? 5,000 to just hang with a Stang? Yea, I saw the video of the LS1 ... But that was not your tC! Unless you had your name changed

So, STOCK FOR STOCK, POWER TO WEIGHT, and VALUE wise which is the better car? (I can smell the homerism!)



That is our TC "ISmokeGuys" is my fiance...

And what part of I got a 350Z that will walk your GT too did you not understand...
I like how you completely ignore the questions.

At least you didn't lie about knowing something and use google

What does quizing me have anything to do with YOUR CAR IS SLOW....face it young buck, I'll walk all over you.
Why do you think we're slow? How do you know we don't have Cobras pushing 700 hp to the wheels?
Old Aug 22, 2006 | 03:07 AM
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Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
Originally Posted by 02_Stang
Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
Originally Posted by 02_Stang
(. I never said NO TC WILL EVER TOUCH A GT,

Face the truth man, you did not, nor will you ever beat a Mustang GT 99 +. It's just not happening. Even FI I can't see you beating a GT

I guess that wasn't you that just wrote that a few post back...
You going to answer the questions or no?

Tell you what, I'll simplify it for you.

Which number is greater - 260 or 160???

Also, 302 or 163???

Stock for stock ...?

RUH ROH!

Put $3,000 into both of them and who wins?

poop, put $3,000 into the Scion and the GT will still win


Here, I'll make it easier for you too..

Y
O
U

A
R
E

S
L
O
W

Get over it dude..
Stock for stock I am like a lightning bolt.

And when I get my SVT? Well, my headlights look really pretty from a mile away!!!
Old Aug 22, 2006 | 03:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Jaggezz
Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
Originally Posted by 02_Stang
Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
Originally Posted by 02_Stang
Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
Originally Posted by 02_Stang
Don't worry, I read your sig. The fact that you haven't posted times with your "SUPER COOL MODS" leads me to believe thats the best you can get out of that car.FYI, my friend with a 2002 GT runs 11.08 1/4 mile, my friends dad with a '03 Cobra runs 11.99 1/4 mile, and my friend with a 2000 V6 runs a 13.1 1/4 mile.

Lets see a Scion do that? Lets face the facts -

STOCK FOR STOCK -

1999 - 2004 GT =
260 HP
302 TQ
$25,000

2005 Scion tC =
160 HP
163 TQ

Sorry buddy, but H/I/NO EXHAUST will NEEEVER take ANY 99+ GT, or most 99+ V6's. Even the V6 outmaches you 193 HP and 225 TQ. You need to learn a little bit about cars. Yes, I know what N/A means. I know what F/I means. I've forgotten more than you will ever know. When you wake up from your fantasy land you will realize your car is a slow P.O.S. and you should have bought the LS1 or the GT. For you to sit there and say ANY Scion will beat ANY GT stock, OR with just headers and intake you are SAAAAADLY mistaken. Why not take some classes on cars?

BTW, to whoever said FWD > RWD you are WAAAAY wrong. I can tell some of you know your stuff, but alot of you are incompetent morons (Present company included).


You read my sig...Riiiiighht. If you did, you wouldn't have tried to capitalize on the fact is says "OLD TIMES N/A'ed".......

Oh, and gotta love the...."Well, my brothers-cousins-aunts-sisters-dad" has a GT that does XX amount of time in the 1/4... Your really starting to crack me up now. Lets get one thing straight, your the one that came on here popping off at the mouth about how a tC will (as you put it) NEVER be able to hang with a GT... You also mentioned not eve F/I tC's can take out a GT... Both of the cars that we own will walk all over you dude, and yet I'm the one in Fantasy land...

Here, go try this vid on for size:

http://www.zeropointindustries.net/gallery/videos/ZPI2
YOU brought up F/I AND your car, BUDDY. I said with an SC and a few other select mods you could hang with a stock GT, which is true. But why put that much money into it? I don't understand ... you end up paying more money to make your car AS FAST as a GT than you would just buying a GT or another car of a comperable speed. I figured that people didn't buy tC's or any other Scion's to soup them up ... One of my friends will be getting an SC for his Scion, we will see how he fairs ...

I simply brought up the fact that with his mods he was NOT hanging with a GT, and BARELY beating a V6. I then proceeded to say that with a few select mods he could HANG with a GT.

Quiz - (Without google)

What is Horsepower?

What is torque?

UDP?

CAI?

t-lok?

4.10?

If you can answer all of that WITHOUT using google I will be so proud of you . Face it, it took you what, 4,000? 5,000 to just hang with a Stang? Yea, I saw the video of the LS1 ... But that was not your tC! Unless you had your name changed

So, STOCK FOR STOCK, POWER TO WEIGHT, and VALUE wise which is the better car? (I can smell the homerism!)



That is our TC "ISmokeGuys" is my fiance...

And what part of I got a 350Z that will walk your GT too did you not understand...
I like how you completely ignore the questions.

At least you didn't lie about knowing something and use google

What does quizing me have anything to do with YOUR CAR IS SLOW....face it young buck, I'll walk all over you.
Why do you think we're slow? How do you know we don't have Cobras pushing 700 hp to the wheels?

Because if you did, you would have said that by now...

And if you do, congratulations, do you want a cookie...

You guys think I'm attacking Stangs. I'm not, I'm defending my choice of weapon. You sign up on here to make an account just to say how crappy a tC is, yet you have not proven to me in the least bit that your faster than I am.. So, with that said, ARE YOU FASTER? If not, sit down and take a #.
Old Aug 22, 2006 | 03:09 AM
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edit: dang double post
Old Aug 22, 2006 | 03:10 AM
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I never once implied your car is slower than a mustang


I just said driving like a dumbass on the street is retarded
Old Aug 22, 2006 | 03:10 AM
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Originally Posted by 02_Stang
Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
Originally Posted by 02_Stang
Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
Originally Posted by 02_Stang
(. I never said NO TC WILL EVER TOUCH A GT,

Face the truth man, you did not, nor will you ever beat a Mustang GT 99 +. It's just not happening. Even FI I can't see you beating a GT

I guess that wasn't you that just wrote that a few post back...
You going to answer the questions or no?

Tell you what, I'll simplify it for you.

Which number is greater - 260 or 160???

Also, 302 or 163???

Stock for stock ...?

RUH ROH!

Put $3,000 into both of them and who wins?

poop, put $3,000 into the Scion and the GT will still win


Here, I'll make it easier for you too..

Y
O
U

A
R
E

S
L
O
W

Get over it dude..
Stock for stock I am like a lightning bolt.

And when I get my SVT? Well, my headlights look really pretty from a mile away!!!

Yeah, in my rearview mirror....

Your 18 years old, by the time you get your SVT, my 350Z would be Twin Turboed running Mid 11's in the 1/4 on low boost.
Old Aug 22, 2006 | 03:10 AM
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Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
Originally Posted by Jaggezz
Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
Originally Posted by 02_Stang
Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
Originally Posted by 02_Stang
Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
Originally Posted by 02_Stang
Don't worry, I read your sig. The fact that you haven't posted times with your "SUPER COOL MODS" leads me to believe thats the best you can get out of that car.FYI, my friend with a 2002 GT runs 11.08 1/4 mile, my friends dad with a '03 Cobra runs 11.99 1/4 mile, and my friend with a 2000 V6 runs a 13.1 1/4 mile.

Lets see a Scion do that? Lets face the facts -

STOCK FOR STOCK -

1999 - 2004 GT =
260 HP
302 TQ
$25,000

2005 Scion tC =
160 HP
163 TQ

Sorry buddy, but H/I/NO EXHAUST will NEEEVER take ANY 99+ GT, or most 99+ V6's. Even the V6 outmaches you 193 HP and 225 TQ. You need to learn a little bit about cars. Yes, I know what N/A means. I know what F/I means. I've forgotten more than you will ever know. When you wake up from your fantasy land you will realize your car is a slow P.O.S. and you should have bought the LS1 or the GT. For you to sit there and say ANY Scion will beat ANY GT stock, OR with just headers and intake you are SAAAAADLY mistaken. Why not take some classes on cars?

BTW, to whoever said FWD > RWD you are WAAAAY wrong. I can tell some of you know your stuff, but alot of you are incompetent morons (Present company included).


You read my sig...Riiiiighht. If you did, you wouldn't have tried to capitalize on the fact is says "OLD TIMES N/A'ed".......

Oh, and gotta love the...."Well, my brothers-cousins-aunts-sisters-dad" has a GT that does XX amount of time in the 1/4... Your really starting to crack me up now. Lets get one thing straight, your the one that came on here popping off at the mouth about how a tC will (as you put it) NEVER be able to hang with a GT... You also mentioned not eve F/I tC's can take out a GT... Both of the cars that we own will walk all over you dude, and yet I'm the one in Fantasy land...

Here, go try this vid on for size:

http://www.zeropointindustries.net/gallery/videos/ZPI2
YOU brought up F/I AND your car, BUDDY. I said with an SC and a few other select mods you could hang with a stock GT, which is true. But why put that much money into it? I don't understand ... you end up paying more money to make your car AS FAST as a GT than you would just buying a GT or another car of a comperable speed. I figured that people didn't buy tC's or any other Scion's to soup them up ... One of my friends will be getting an SC for his Scion, we will see how he fairs ...

I simply brought up the fact that with his mods he was NOT hanging with a GT, and BARELY beating a V6. I then proceeded to say that with a few select mods he could HANG with a GT.

Quiz - (Without google)

What is Horsepower?

What is torque?

UDP?

CAI?

t-lok?

4.10?

If you can answer all of that WITHOUT using google I will be so proud of you . Face it, it took you what, 4,000? 5,000 to just hang with a Stang? Yea, I saw the video of the LS1 ... But that was not your tC! Unless you had your name changed

So, STOCK FOR STOCK, POWER TO WEIGHT, and VALUE wise which is the better car? (I can smell the homerism!)



That is our TC "ISmokeGuys" is my fiance...

And what part of I got a 350Z that will walk your GT too did you not understand...
I like how you completely ignore the questions.

At least you didn't lie about knowing something and use google

What does quizing me have anything to do with YOUR CAR IS SLOW....face it young buck, I'll walk all over you.
Why do you think we're slow? How do you know we don't have Cobras pushing 700 hp to the wheels?

Because if you did, you would have said that by now...

And if you do, congratulations, do you want a cookie...

You guys think I'm attacking Stangs. I'm not, I'm defending my choice of weapon. You sign up on here to make an account just to say how crappy a tC is, yet you have not proven to me in the least bit that your faster than I am.. So, with that said, ARE YOU FASTER? If not, sit down and take a #.
You think you're so hot because you have a Scion that runs a 12.1

That's nothing for a mustang. There's PLENTY of stangs that are sub-10 second cars.
Old Aug 22, 2006 | 03:13 AM
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Originally Posted by DetourAhead
I never once implied your car is slower than a mustang


I just said driving like a dumbass on the street is retarded

Fair enough, your entitled to your opinion. However, we do take precautions not to involve innocent people. The road we race on (should you be challenged) is a two lane highway with no city lights on it. It's about 1 am, with literally NO traffic on it. If something were to happen, then you have only yourself to screw up (which would be the same if on a track), to which we go to the track as well.

I plan on visiting BeachBend (1/4 track about an hr away) as soon as I get a more solid tune on the car.
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http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...+mustang&hl=en

Turbo Mustang > Turbo Scion

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Old Aug 22, 2006 | 03:16 AM
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Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
Because if you did, you would have said that by now...

And if you do, congratulations, do you want a cookie...

You guys think I'm attacking Stangs. I'm not, I'm defending my choice of weapon. You sign up on here to make an account just to say how crappy a tC is, yet you have not proven to me in the least bit that your faster than I am.. So, with that said, ARE YOU FASTER? If not, sit down and take a #.
Hahaha...

Ok, here is the proof (I don't know how many times I can say stock for stock).

2001 SVT Cobra -
320 HP
317 TQ
4.8 0 - 60
13.5 1/4

1999 GT -
260 HP
302 TQ
5.5 0-60
14.1 1/4

http://www.albeedigital.com/supercou...0-60times.html

STOCK 2005 Scion TC -
160 HP
163 TQ
??? 0-60
16.952 1/4 mile

http://www.dragtimes.com/Scion-tC-Timeslip-6274.html
Old Aug 22, 2006 | 03:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Jaggezz

Your point is what?

1) Not your cars

2) HIGHLY doubt those are daily drivers (as ours still is)

3) Never said Mustangs CAN'T be fast

4) Seen 8 sec Civics, Seen 8 Sec. Supras, seen 8 Sec. Skylines....Anything can be made to go fast. We already have one ScionLife member in the 9's with a N/A'ed Scion Motor with only 300hp.

5) What's your point again?
Old Aug 22, 2006 | 03:21 AM
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Originally Posted by 02_Stang
Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
Because if you did, you would have said that by now...

And if you do, congratulations, do you want a cookie...

You guys think I'm attacking Stangs. I'm not, I'm defending my choice of weapon. You sign up on here to make an account just to say how crappy a tC is, yet you have not proven to me in the least bit that your faster than I am.. So, with that said, ARE YOU FASTER? If not, sit down and take a #.
Hahaha...

Ok, here is the proof (I don't know how many times I can say stock for stock).

2001 SVT Cobra -
320 HP
317 TQ
4.8 0 - 60
13.5 1/4

1999 GT -
260 HP
302 TQ
5.5 0-60
14.1 1/4

http://www.albeedigital.com/supercou...0-60times.html

STOCK 2005 Scion TC -
160 HP
163 TQ
??? 0-60
16.952 1/4 mile

http://www.dragtimes.com/Scion-tC-Timeslip-6274.html

Proof of what dude, I don't have a Stock TC...Your throwing me oranges when I'm talking about apples...


FYI...Stock TC's do not do 16.9 in the 1/4 mile. They are not even rated that slow dude. Search here on the boards and you will find the tC is a mid 15 sec car STOCK. If you really believe that I can knock of nearly 2 sec's in the 1/4 with just the addition of an exhaust...then by god, my girl and I must be SOME HELLA Good drivers. As she was clicking 15.1's and 15.2's in the 1/4 as well.

PS...Got it on vid if you want to see it.
Old Aug 22, 2006 | 03:27 AM
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Oh, you mentioned that you were talking about the S/C for the tC. I am not that big on the S/C, but some people buy them for the warranty. I don't find it very cost effective, imo, and I agree with you about the S/C. But turbo TC is a different ball game and here is my latest vid with one of our Scikotics members...Just to show you how much of a difference the S/C is compared to a T/C'ed tC

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNKaOD86wOE
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Why do all these people with no scions get on here just to hate and start trouble. Are your mustang forums that boring that you have to come bother the SL members. It's time to man up and answer the question about how fast your car is. and if you say it's no 1/4 "queen" (odd wording) then you're obviously lacking in torque yourself bro... Road races are all about HP. I like how you talk about only putting a Grand into a cobra to hang run 12's... last time I checked cobra's weren't exactly cheap. so your telling me that it's more economical to buy a cobra and invest 1000 bucks than to turbo a 17,000 scion. LOL... You mustang guys crack me up. You're so overprotective of your precious little pony cars. You're absolutely hate the thought that there are other cars out there faster than you. LOL, the pics of the blue slowstang , whoevers it is, it's so obvious that it's a V6, the small rims are a dead give away. And if you go back thru the thread and read my previous posts, The mustang I raced was a brand new one, 05-06 body style, and it said GT on it in the middle below the trunk. My tC wasn't stock, but I didn't put more than 800 dollars into it. So that brings me to about 19,000 dollars total. How much did that new GT stang cost. Enough difference to go buy a turbo for my tC and make cobras cry. Come on man, you drive a METOO car. " I have a mustang. ME TOO!" THe only reason they still make the stang is because that the vast majority are V6's (like yours) and are bought by little girls (like you) which keeps costs low, and alows ford to sell the more expensive GT models. Mustangs are so over rated, and the market for them is oversaturated.
PS: man with xB has no place to talk crap in a forum involving turbo tC's and GT mustangs. The only ting you can brag about is your fuel economy. Don't be stupid.
Old Aug 22, 2006 | 05:56 AM
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don't go bashing me when you haven't read the whole thread. yes I drive a xB and I brag about its gas efficency and that's why I bought it as a daily, but ill glady race you in my honda anytime.

and I didn't suport mustangs in anyway besides the fact that I said a foxbody mustang gt is by far the best bang for the buck in a power to price ratio, which is true.
Old Aug 22, 2006 | 11:47 AM
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sorry yall. these people posting don't represent the entire mustang community. we know the story was BS, so stop letting everyone know. we know a stock GT will take a stock scion. even this whole scion forum saw through the BS.
Old Aug 22, 2006 | 02:53 PM
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LOl... i've been following this thread from day one. Besides a b16 motor swap and gutting the car what else have you done to your honda? After Rhythmsmoke walked a 350Z in his tC, you think you're gonna run all over him. HAHA! The stock 350Z runs a low 14 in the 1/4 mile, easily pushed to high 13's. Which is right around a GT mustang. So why don't you turn around, and tell all the mustang guys that you have a N/A stripped down, Civic hatch that will stomp their GT mustangs....Go ahead, start a new thread, and we'll be right back to sqare one. Import turner with 4banger claiming to have defeated beloved V8 american muscle car.
Old Aug 22, 2006 | 04:35 PM
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my first car was a 99 gt and it sucked. it sucked from a roll it revved slow and breathed hard, downshifts were non existenet and it couldn't grab the road for anything. For anyone who knows, the hp and tq numbers mean nothing its not the same car. Ponys frame twist when you drop the hammer due to poor engineering an dbeing a rwd it losses more power to the wheels and has no weight over the wheels so it grabs nothing. I know because i have been building prostreet, prostock cars with the family race team for 14 years so the stang can suck it. it not about just horspower, if it was people wouldn't spend thousands in engine dampneres bushinds and suspension. you have no idea what you are talking about so stop copy and pasting numbers for your littlegt or svt or big bad stock v6 and learn what racing is all about. DA motorsports for life. I love my TC and i will go to anything in a heart beat. I beat a nova SS with a 2 stage bottle in a single turbo 91 gsr so its not the numbers bigger isnt better
Old Aug 22, 2006 | 04:51 PM
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i'm quite fond of my 410RWHP 2004 GT.

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