Unless your turbocharged or have a REALLY nice supercharger setup, you won because the other driver wasnt able to drive his Cobalt to its potential.

2005 Chevrolet Cobalt SS 6.1 14.6 (C&D Sept '05)

 

The driver of the Cobalt was worthless then. No granny shifting. Early shifting probobly or not knowing how to launch and drive after that. I/H/E will NOT beat the S/C Cobalt. Plain and simple. You figure:
I/H/E give you MAYBE 10-15 whp so you're up around 155 whp.

The Cobalt is around 205 hp putting down about 185 whp and weights less. Was the Cobalt driver about 400 lbs?

The Cobalt driver needs to know how to shift/drive b/c NA tCs will not beat stock Cobalt S/C.

 

The cobalt ss/sc was all stock

 

A stock cobalt ss/sc runs a 14.6 second quarter mile and a 6.1 second 0-60.

No Naturally aspirated Scion tC is running under a 14.6 second quarter. And only a few supercharged tCs are running under that.

 

My Brother co-worker that I raced with the Cobalt SS/SC was all stock. I have some upgrades on My supercharger well not really an upgrade. when i think about, Just doing engine on my car. It was a fun race. We are going to do it again. I have more respect for the cobalt now.

 

A stock cobalt ss/sc runs a 14.6 second quarter mile and a 6.1 second 0-60. is driven by a Professional car driver

 

Sorry to laugh. But it was driven by the same people that only got a 15.7 out of a stock tC. People on here run 15.6 on a stock tC. So it goes both ways. Cobalt drivers can and do run 14.6 stock.

Even if we do say the 14.6 was done by a professional and cant be deuplicated by one of us. That means we conservatively say the cobalt is a 15 second car for the average driver. That means a HIGHLY modified Natural aspirated tC with a GREAT driver i/h/e/pulleys STILL CANNOT beat the cobalt. People with all the bolt ons for a tC ARE NOT running 15 second quarter miles. So its still a loss.

 

So you're saying what? A S/C Cobalt driven by a regular driver would drive slow enough to lose to a tC with some bolt ons? Sorry, but even if the Cobalt wasn't floored, it would still have a lead on the tC. Floored....that's a different story. 1/4 times for a S/C Cobalt range from 14.6-14.8. The tC 1/4 time stock is 15.6-15.8. That full second is at least a car length depending on the top speeds. With I/H/E only, your tC isn't running any better than 15.3 and that's with a professional driver , so you could expect to be running about 15.5-15.7.

 

WEB, I swaet we think exactly alike in this thread. I just type faster

 

Yeah, the bolt on crowd (me included) are close to 15, but I don't know if I could break it. I've got the short throw, but I think with the lightweight flywheel and stage 2 clutch (not crappy centerforce from Toyota), I could break the 15 plane.

 

high five to those of you who can accept a tc is not magical just because we are on a scion board.

a cobalt ss is a great performer. period. it makes great power and has an LSD. believing bolt ons or the trd supercharger will match up to it is a laugh.

this is always assuming the drivers are good.

 

i will not pay for a 3k upgrade and still get beat by a Cobalt
Turbo for me!

 

If you look at all the options the tC comes with or has available and compare it to the Cobalt, the tC has no comparison in the same price range. The cobalt may be a little faster but its not nearly as stylish and the biggest downfall to the cobalt is that its GM and not Toyota!

 

Becareful...there are two Cobalt SS. One is the S/C version and the other is a 170hp version which would likely be a really good match for the tC. i drove both cars (tC and SS/sc) and found the Cobalt SS/sc to be much more fun to drive and the Recaro racing seats make it much easier to drive fast in the turns also. the reason i didnt buy the SS was the car insurance was crazy high for me (im 20). Disregard any argument about reliability, all cars are reliable now. in the latest JD Power survey the diff between the best (Lexus) and worse (Isuzu) was 0.4 problems per 100 cars. Needless to say i would get the GTI if i was spending money on that kind of car

 

You should realize that it was driven by a bad driver. My brother co-worker was a bad driver. it doesn't matter what you say it can't help that dude driving. I never said the Cobalt was a bad car. I didn't anything bad it. I'm talking about the driver. I really think he was short shifting. Anyway it doesn't matter, it already happen.

 

Just as long as you realize it was the driver you beat, not the car then its all good. To many people come around saying they beat this car and that car and think their car is faster than that car.
Its cool that you can recognize that you beat the driver and that your car is not as fast as a Cobalt. I respect that.

 

The Tc has bad traction, That 's just one of the reasons why it's doing bad on 1/4. Anyway have anyone ran the stock TRD supercharger with an open Air box? Does it really get 14 more hp. Are the chart it said 214.5 Max power and 202.8 of max torque.

http://www.cobaltss.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2342

 

Well you're the one who prejuded that I was talking about the car. You should read and think about what the other person is really saying and then response. No hard feelings Nick.

 

Running without the air box is not the smartest idea. Most cars won't even stay running. You would have to enrichen the fuel mixture so that it would draw more air in from the filter. If not, the ECU will think that there is a drop an increase in manifold pressure from more air coming in and actually lean the engine out to the point that it will stall. Not sure of the increase HP but i'm sure it helps a bit, but just imagine what would happen if you suck a leaf or small stick into the engine that is sitting in a dirty engine bay........not a good thing to risk for ~14 hp.

 

Did you see the chart that say it? I posted the link up