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Old Aug 20, 2007 | 07:38 PM
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So, because they wore the shirts that they work on cars in at the new facility.... As mentioned a LONG time ago, it was his intentions to bring over the company with him to turbochargers.com. HOWEVER, that is/was no longer the case. Just because he wore a shirt though, you are confused. Hope your confusion is clear now.
I'm sorry, but everything WAS clear to me untill this post. It just doesn't make sense. "So, because they wore the shirts that they work on cars in at the new facility"? I'm having trouble following the grammer on that one!

I.E....I work on cars in my work shirt. The shirts I use to get dirty in happen to say AEM on it. If I quit and start working for another company, my shirts I get dirty in still say AEM on them until I get new ones to get dirty in.

Just merely conveying that just because you saw me working in the AEM shirt means squat about the current legal/financial/and intentions I would have at the new company.


This is not a Put 2-And-2 together situation here. There are a lot of things going on that are not discussed in a public forum.
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lol when ur having a bad day at work just read the ZPI thread...
then you thank god you didnt order anything from them!
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Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke


This is not a Put 2-And-2 together situation here. There are a lot of things going on that are not discussed in a public forum.

Thank you enough said!
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Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke


This is not a Put 2-And-2 together situation here. There are a lot of things going on that are not discussed in a public forum.
Well, Im willing to bet that the things that arent being discussed in this public forum arent things that will lead people to believe that kenny is some sort of saint. The fact that people have been getting the run around by zpi for years now should be a bold enough statement to say that this was a predictable outcome for zpi from day one...due to so many people being out of money, I wont be the person to say "I told you so". But lets be honest here, is everyone that naive that they couldnt see this happening eventually in the future? Also, its funny how you see some of the zpi camp is still protecting kenny's interest like he is family, but then again, theres also some people that were zpi advocates that are now wishing that they had listened to the masses from day one and are kicking themselves in the **** now that they are out of a huge chunk of money. After hearing statements made by former employees stating that people werent exactly getting what they paid for really puts a bad taste in my mouth. What happens when the guy that paid for a built motor tries running 15psi through the block thinking it has been fortified and will be able to handle that increased cylinder pressure like its a walk in the park?? What was zpi gonna do? Hope to god that when he blows the motor that he brings it back to zpi and not another shop so that the customer finds out that he paid all this money for a stock block, and not to mention, probly waited a good amount of time to receive their "zpi built" motor. Thats such a shady way of doing business , and karma is a b!tch and it will eventually catch up to kenny, as it is doing so already. Anyone who continues to buy parts from kenny is just a moron no matter how good youve been treated in the past, just for the fact that you are supporting a criminal crooked thief that has ripped off handfuls of people from the same community as you, all people who share the same interest in making their scions faster. Buying parts from Kenny is just supporting his criminal ways of running a business.
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Originally Posted by Simplyscion
Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke


This is not a Put 2-And-2 together situation here. There are a lot of things going on that are not discussed in a public forum.
Well, Im willing to bet that the things that arent being discussed in this public forum arent things that will lead people to believe that kenny is some sort of saint.
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Originally Posted by etsnet
Originally Posted by Simplyscion
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This is not a Put 2-And-2 together situation here. There are a lot of things going on that are not discussed in a public forum.
Well, Im willing to bet that the things that arent being discussed in this public forum arent things that will lead people to believe that kenny is some sort of saint.
c'mon. spill the beans!!!!!
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Originally Posted by Simplyscion
Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke


This is not a Put 2-And-2 together situation here. There are a lot of things going on that are not discussed in a public forum.
The fact that people have been getting the run around by zpi for years now should be a bold enough statement to say that this was a predictable outcome for zpi from day one...due to so many people being out of money, I wont be the person to say "I told you so".
but people on the other hand didnt think they were going to fall on their face and then have to find legal help because of a bad situation which just went downhill into a horrible situation.
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Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
Originally Posted by Mr_Meaty
Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
So, because they wore the shirts that they work on cars in at the new facility.... As mentioned a LONG time ago, it was his intentions to bring over the company with him to turbochargers.com. HOWEVER, that is/was no longer the case. Just because he wore a shirt though, you are confused. Hope your confusion is clear now.
I'm sorry, but everything WAS clear to me untill this post. It just doesn't make sense. "So, because they wore the shirts that they work on cars in at the new facility"? I'm having trouble following the grammer on that one!

I.E....I work on cars in my work shirt. The shirts I use to get dirty in happen to say AEM on it. If I quit and start working for another company, my shirts I get dirty in still say AEM on them until I get new ones to get dirty in.

Just merely conveying that just because you saw me working in the AEM shirt means squat about the current legal/financial/and intentions I would have at the new company.


This is not a Put 2-And-2 together situation here. There are a lot of things going on that are not discussed in a public forum.
I refuse to believe that they wore those shirts because they had no other work clothes. You mean to tell me that the entire ZPI staff along with Kenny wore the shirts in a new company that anyone can visit and see them due to a lack of work clothes? I am willing to bet that at the time they were still trying to promote the ZPI brand. I am also willing to bet that anyone that visits turbochargers now will notice that there is no longer any ZPI coordinated clothes. Every explanation you seem to offer is circumstantial (2+2 as you call it)

You have also yet to answer as to why anything ZPI can not be bought from turbochargers.com web site all of a sudden, yet another web site still carries them.
Old Aug 20, 2007 | 11:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Menace

You have also yet to answer as to why nothing ZPI can not be bought from turbochargers.com web site all of a sudden, yet another web site still carries them.
TC.com knows whats going on. Other companies probably haven't gotten word yet. Golden eagle didn't know (but they know now) and race engineering was under the impression that just the name changed. Can't imagine where they heard that.

Like someone else said, the parts were probably still in stock on the other website. If so then they would still be able to sell the kits with no problem. TC.com probably just had the kits dropped shipped from ZPI.

Either way what's the big deal if they took it off the website or not? Anyone knowing what is going on and with half a brain wouldn't buy it.
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^^ Thats why I was curious as to why they offered ZPI items after Kenny came onboard, then did an about face at around Danny's and Kenny's meeting.
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Originally Posted by Simplyscion
Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke


This is not a Put 2-And-2 together situation here. There are a lot of things going on that are not discussed in a public forum.
Well, Im willing to bet that the things that arent being discussed in this public forum arent things that will lead people to believe that kenny is some sort of saint. The fact that people have been getting the run around by zpi for years now should be a bold enough statement to say that this was a predictable outcome for zpi from day one...due to so many people being out of money, I wont be the person to say "I told you so". But lets be honest here, is everyone that naive that they couldnt see this happening eventually in the future? Also, its funny how you see some of the zpi camp is still protecting kenny's interest like he is family, but then again, theres also some people that were zpi advocates that are now wishing that they had listened to the masses from day one and are kicking themselves in the **** now that they are out of a huge chunk of money. After hearing statements made by former employees stating that people werent exactly getting what they paid for really puts a bad taste in my mouth. What happens when the guy that paid for a built motor tries running 15psi through the block thinking it has been fortified and will be able to handle that increased cylinder pressure like its a walk in the park?? What was zpi gonna do? Hope to god that when he blows the motor that he brings it back to zpi and not another shop so that the customer finds out that he paid all this money for a stock block, and not to mention, probly waited a good amount of time to receive their "zpi built" motor. Thats such a shady way of doing business , and karma is a b!tch and it will eventually catch up to kenny, as it is doing so already. Anyone who continues to buy parts from kenny is just a moron no matter how good youve been treated in the past, just for the fact that you are supporting a criminal crooked thief that has ripped off handfuls of people from the same community as you, all people who share the same interest in making their scions faster. Buying parts from Kenny is just supporting his criminal ways of running a business.

You have absolutely NO idea what you are even talking about.
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Originally Posted by Menace
Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
Originally Posted by Mr_Meaty
Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
So, because they wore the shirts that they work on cars in at the new facility.... As mentioned a LONG time ago, it was his intentions to bring over the company with him to turbochargers.com. HOWEVER, that is/was no longer the case. Just because he wore a shirt though, you are confused. Hope your confusion is clear now.
I'm sorry, but everything WAS clear to me untill this post. It just doesn't make sense. "So, because they wore the shirts that they work on cars in at the new facility"? I'm having trouble following the grammer on that one!

I.E....I work on cars in my work shirt. The shirts I use to get dirty in happen to say AEM on it. If I quit and start working for another company, my shirts I get dirty in still say AEM on them until I get new ones to get dirty in.

Just merely conveying that just because you saw me working in the AEM shirt means squat about the current legal/financial/and intentions I would have at the new company.


This is not a Put 2-And-2 together situation here. There are a lot of things going on that are not discussed in a public forum.
I refuse to believe that they wore those shirts because they had no other work clothes. You mean to tell me that the entire ZPI staff along with Kenny wore the shirts in a new company that anyone can visit and see them due to a lack of work clothes? I am willing to bet that at the time they were still trying to promote the ZPI brand. I am also willing to bet that anyone that visits turbochargers now will notice that there is no longer any ZPI coordinated clothes. Every explanation you seem to offer is circumstantial (2+2 as you call it)

You have also yet to answer as to why anything ZPI can not be bought from turbochargers.com web site all of a sudden, yet another web site still carries them.


Geesh....
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Originally Posted by Menace
^^ Thats why I was curious as to why they offered ZPI items after Kenny came onboard, then did an about face at around Danny's and Kenny's meeting.

Main Entry: co·in·ci·dence
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2 : the occurrence of events that happen at the same time by accident but seem to have some connection; also : any of these occurrences
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I know travis, they are saints when it comes to the Scion world...everyone should bow down to them cause of their greatness...they have an outstanding reputation of pleasing there customers right? We should just forget any of the crap they pulled because they bring us the "fastest scions" in the world and are the "leaders of innovation in the scion community". You know what kind of importance that brings to the table...absolutely zero importance factor. Face it, they did some sheisty **** in the past with there shipping lies, and installing used parts on people's cars, shipping out half turbo kits just to buy themselves time by saying the rest of the stuff mysteriously was not packed in the box...the list goes on, shall we continue. Yo, just give it up already man, you can only stick up for someone for soo long before you start making yourself look bad for supporting the unethical business practices. You had a good experience with ZPI, theres a reason for it, Kenny isnt stupid he knew if he took care of you that you would come on Scionlife and sing like a lil birdy about how great of a person Kenny and the ZPI crew is...you were nothing more than free marketing to them, and you lived up to their expectations 100%...dont be a naive sucker and say but Kenny is my friend and he took me out to dinner and blah blah blah...business is business, and theres one thing kenny knows how to do and thats generate business
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Originally Posted by Simplyscion
I know travis, they are saints when it comes to the Scion world...everyone should bow down to them cause of their greatness...they have an outstanding reputation of pleasing there customers right? We should just forget any of the crap they pulled because they bring us the "fastest scions" in the world and are the "leaders of innovation in the scion community". You know what kind of importance that brings to the table...absolutely zero importance factor. Face it, they did some sheisty **** in the past with there shipping lies, and installing used parts on people's cars, shipping out half turbo kits just to buy themselves time by saying the rest of the stuff mysteriously was not packed in the box...the list goes on, shall we continue. Yo, just give it up already man, you can only stick up for someone for soo long before you start making yourself look bad for supporting the unethical business practices. You had a good experience with ZPI, theres a reason for it, Kenny isnt stupid he knew if he took care of you that you would come on Scionlife and sing like a lil birdy about how great of a person Kenny and the ZPI crew is...you were nothing more than free marketing to them, and you lived up to their expectations 100%...dont be a naive sucker and say but Kenny is my friend and he took me out to dinner and blah blah blah...business is business, and theres one thing kenny knows how to do and thats generate business

No, didn't claim anyone was a Saint, didn't claim that anyone didn't make the wrong business decision at times, didn't claim that anyone was perfect. But what you are saying I find rather stretching of the truth. Everything is blown to exponential proportions over the internet, and Multiply that by 2 for SL. What evidence are you basing your opinions on? What Brad said? Come on dude, he motives are questionable at best. Coming from a guy who said he designed the ZPI turbo kit BEFORE he even was employed by them...I'm not going to sit here and argue with you, but you have no hard evidence to make any claim you are stating.


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shipping out half turbo kits just to buy themselves time by saying the rest of the stuff mysteriously was not packed in the box...the list goes on, shall we continue.

Are you serious bro.... Show me where that happened. INFACT every time I read someone talking about having half the turbo kit, it was because of their lack of knowledge that some parts are "Drop Shipped". Don't even pretend that ZPI was the only turbo kit company to have a customer receive part of their kit, and get other pieces to it the next week.... My boy didn't receive his entire Dezod kit all at the same time either. It came in over time.



Originally Posted by SimplyScion
you were nothing more than free marketing to them, and you lived up to their expectations 100%...dont be a naive sucker and say but Kenny is my friend and he took me out to dinner and blah blah blah...business is business, and theres one thing kenny knows how to do and thats generate business

So, now you are trying to insult my intelligence by telling me I can't tell the difference between being a "tool" and having a "friendship".... Yeah, cause my fake friendship is SOOOOO based on Kenny taking me out to dinner a few time...
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When will ZPI die...
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Originally Posted by 318_tC
When will ZPI die...

they already did
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When will my refund come to me!!!!!!
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