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Old Aug 20, 2007 | 12:07 AM
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its silver i beieve, seen it on a trailer leaving the area of zpi last week
Old Aug 20, 2007 | 01:00 AM
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I thought kenny was in Texas cause it SEEMED like he was personally helping nychold with his barrel intercooler zpi kit, no?
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Old Aug 20, 2007 | 02:32 AM
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lol when ur having a bad day at work just read the ZPI thread...
Old Aug 20, 2007 | 02:53 AM
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lol when ur having a bad day at work just read the ZPI thread...
haha
Old Aug 20, 2007 | 02:21 PM
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Also, Rhythm, we havent heard from you in a while. Where are you? ZPI bashing is not fun when you are not around, we miss you


I've been busy attending to actual "Important" business. Besides the two people I cared about Brian "jester" and Paul "etsnet" both have their cars out of the shop. The rest, there is nothing I can do about, and that has to be taken care of by the said parties.

By the way, I would imagine that Turbochargers.com would obviously take the ZPI racing product line off of their website. Why would they keep it, they've got Kenny along with the entire Ex-ZPI Staff there. Why go out for milk when you got the whole Cow....
My point was that you can no longer order a ZPI kit from turbochargers.com as opposed to a week ago when they had a whole section dedicated to ZPI. Whats the point of having the cow if its not producing any milk?
That doesn't make sense. I'm sure when you wrote it out it sounded alright to you, but dude WHY on earth would they continue to showcase a product when the products chief engineer now works for you, and probably/more than likely designing a new product line for you. That's only logical. Just out of curiosity, how many companies have you been at the forefront in business decisions?

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And sorry to take away from your "important" business. Your 10 posts a day count is going suffer if you continue with this important business stuff and neglect SL.
Main Entry: 1con·tra·dic·to·ry
Pronunciation: "kän-tr&-'dik-t(&-)rE
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural -ries
: a proposition so related to another that if either of the two is true the other is false and if either is false the other must be true

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Also, Rhythm, we havent heard from you in a while. Where are you? ZPI bashing is not fun when you are not around, we miss you Smile

Neglect SL? Seems they have all the help one could need. Going to finish making the DIY clutch install video, and that will be my contribution for a while.
You being witty is cute, but don't concoct the posts and my statements to make invalid points.

First, like I said before, I was curious as to why ZPI's items are no longer offered through turbochargers.com. They can still be pumping out the ZPI kits as they were for the last 3 weeks while your "chief engineer" is hard at work on the next best thing<insert joke here>, unless they ran out of stock.., no, wait, that can't be it due to the fact that they never have poop in stock to begin with. So, from a business perspective, it does not make sense to cease making his bread and butter that put him on the map in the first place, before a replacement is in production.

Second, to answer your question, I am at the forefront of two companies, one of which I am the sole decision maker and consult with another person in the other. Now, to come back to my initial point, unless there are any legal, administrative, or other issues with a similar effect that would prevent turbochargers.com from selling ZPI kits to supplement their greddy and turbonetics kits is not a business model I would implement considering the cost on those ZPI kits would be nothing as opposed to the others since they are made in house.

Last, I am glad you are handy with online dictionaries but your little switcheroo with my posts only demonstrates your intense effort to side step the topic at hand. If you would put them back in chronological order and consider the time at which they were written, they would make perfect sense. So instead of a word, I have a term for you:

Reading comprehension - "Reading comprehension is understanding a text that is read, or the process of "constructing meaning" from a text. Comprehension is a "construction process" because it involves all of the elements of the reading process working together as a text is read to create a representation of the text in the reader's mind".


Half way through, it turned into....Blah Ba Blah blah Blah...
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Originally Posted by j3st3r
Most intellectual properties belong to the company, or owner of the company though. So if Danny is the true owner of ZPI, then all of the ZPI designs, patents, and ZPI branded products belong to him, and no other company would have rights to sell, or make them unless they were autorized by him. Perhaps that is the reason they no longer show up on the turbochargers.com site.
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^^Now that makes sense and thats what I was trying to confirm. Just seemed strange that turbocharger.com removed everything ZPI around the time of Danny's and Kenny's meeting.

If you were at the "forefront" of 2 companies like you said you have been, and calling the shots like you said you have, then you would know about NDA's, Intellectual Property (what you can and can't say is intellectual property), No Compete contracts, etc...

Just FYI...The Intellectual property over the ZPI turbo kit, is Kenny's brain. To which you can't place property rights over an individuals knowledge.
Old Aug 20, 2007 | 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke

Just FYI...The Intellectual property over the ZPI turbo kit, is Kenny's brain. To which you can't place property rights over an individuals knowledge.
Doesnt matter what knowledge he has, the "ZPI turbo kit" is just that ....the ZPI Turbo kit meaning the design belongs to the company, regardless of who designed it, and can not be sold or designed anywhere else under the "ZPI turbo kit", without permission from ZPI. All designs, are in the engineers brain, but once it is designed for a company, and to be branded as a companies product, the intlectual propertied belong to the company. I have 3 patents with my name on them, however the company owns all the intllectual properties to those items, so I got my 150 bucks for each, a plaque and the company gets to make the millions!
Old Aug 20, 2007 | 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke

Just FYI...The Intellectual property over the ZPI turbo kit, is Kenny's brain. To which you can't place property rights over an individuals knowledge.
Doesnt matter what knowledge he has, the "ZPI turbo kit" is just that ....the ZPI Turbo kit meaning the design belongs to the company, regardless of who designed it, and can not be sold or designed anywhere else under the "ZPI turbo kit", without permission from ZPI. All designs, are in the engineers brain, but once it is designed for a company, and to be branded as a companies product, the intlectual propertied belong to the company. I have 3 patents with my name on them, however the company owns all the intllectual properties to those items, so I got my 150 bucks for each, a plaque and the company gets to make the millions!

Yeah, I know that. Just going back to my saying "why sale the milk, when you got the cow". It was only natural that they would not sale ZPI turbo kits, nor sale a similar kit under the ZPI name. That's asking for a lawsuit. That's not even business talk, that's just pure common sense.

Also, to my knowledge there are no patents on the ZPI turbo kit.
Old Aug 20, 2007 | 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by nychang65
Originally Posted by Mr_Meaty
I thought kenny was in Texas cause it SEEMED like he was personally helping nychold with his barrel intercooler zpi kit, no?
non asians always butcher my name....
That's so funny, cause I AM asian!
Actually, I'm half, so I got half you name right!

Actually, I just forgot and was to lazy to look it up!
My bad!
Old Aug 20, 2007 | 04:10 PM
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Refer to my previous post, you obviously have difficulties understanding what you read.

For the last time; ZPI items were on sale from the turbochargers.com website after Kenny came on board, then magically everything (not just the turbo kits) ZPI disappeared. This has nothing to do with intellectual property. Why would the new Mr.VP wear ZPI shirts with his old staff at the new place of business while offering them through turbochargers.com then all of a sudden stop??? Do you not understand what I am asking, because I am running out of ways to convey this to you.
Old Aug 20, 2007 | 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Menace
Refer to my previous post, you obviously have difficulties understanding what you read.

For the last time; ZPI items were on sale from the turbochargers.com website after Kenny came on board, then magically everything (not just the turbo kits) ZPI disappeared. This has nothing to do with intellectual property. Why would the new Mr.VP wear ZPI shirts with his old staff at the new place of business while offering them through turbochargers.com then all of a sudden stop??? Do you not understand what I am asking, because I am running out of ways to convey this to you.

Why would you want to continue to be associated with ZPI if you left on bad terms?
Old Aug 20, 2007 | 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr_Meaty
Originally Posted by nychang65
Originally Posted by Mr_Meaty
I thought kenny was in Texas cause it SEEMED like he was personally helping nychold with his barrel intercooler zpi kit, no?
non asians always butcher my name....
That's so funny, cause I AM asian!
Actually, I'm half, so I got half you name right!

Actually, I just forgot and was to lazy to look it up!
My bad!
All good Meaty. No harm, no foul. Does SL ever have events?
Old Aug 20, 2007 | 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
Originally Posted by Menace
Refer to my previous post, you obviously have difficulties understanding what you read.

For the last time; ZPI items were on sale from the turbochargers.com website after Kenny came on board, then magically everything (not just the turbo kits) ZPI disappeared. This has nothing to do with intellectual property. Why would the new Mr.VP wear ZPI shirts with his old staff at the new place of business while offering them through turbochargers.com then all of a sudden stop??? Do you not understand what I am asking, because I am running out of ways to convey this to you.

Why would you want to continue to be associated with ZPI if you left on bad terms?
OMG, I am about to have a mental breakdown. Kenny and his staff were seen wearing ZPI shirts at turbochargers.com warehouse (as observed by a person in this thread). They were selling ZPI items on turbochargers.com website. That to me, would indicate that Kenny (the new VP of Turbochargers.com) had (at that time) every intention to milk his previous brand for money. This would also indicate that he was under the impression that it would be legally feasible. Shortly after Danny and Kenny had that meeting, the ZPI section and all their items disappeared from the web site. One can conclude that some legal issues came into play. I wanted to know if anyone actually knew more on this issue without guessing as to what happened.
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I wonder why it is still available at TurboKits.com?
http://www.turbokits.com/tC_turbo_kits.html
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I think because they bought a few sets from ZPI a while back. Those have been on the site long before any of the drama happened.
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Originally Posted by Menace
Refer to my previous post, you obviously have difficulties understanding what you read.

For the last time; ZPI items were on sale from the turbochargers.com website after Kenny came on board, then magically everything (not just the turbo kits) ZPI disappeared. This has nothing to do with intellectual property. Why would the new Mr.VP wear ZPI shirts with his old staff at the new place of business while offering them through turbochargers.com then all of a sudden stop??? Do you not understand what I am asking, because I am running out of ways to convey this to you.
Sorry dude....I did not realize that I was quoting something that you wrote, thought it was something Travis had posted. My bad
Old Aug 20, 2007 | 06:48 PM
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I have seen politicians argue less then people in this thread.
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Its cool jester.

I am wondering if turbochargers knew the full extent of Kenny's baggage at the time of Kenny's arrival. Not sure if they anticipated how the ZPI mess would turn out.
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Originally Posted by Menace
Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
Originally Posted by Menace
Refer to my previous post, you obviously have difficulties understanding what you read.

For the last time; ZPI items were on sale from the turbochargers.com website after Kenny came on board, then magically everything (not just the turbo kits) ZPI disappeared. This has nothing to do with intellectual property. Why would the new Mr.VP wear ZPI shirts with his old staff at the new place of business while offering them through turbochargers.com then all of a sudden stop??? Do you not understand what I am asking, because I am running out of ways to convey this to you.

Why would you want to continue to be associated with ZPI if you left on bad terms?
OMG, I am about to have a mental breakdown. Kenny and his staff were seen wearing ZPI shirts at turbochargers.com warehouse (as observed by a person in this thread). They were selling ZPI items on turbochargers.com website. That to me, would indicate that Kenny (the new VP of Turbochargers.com) had (at that time) every intention to milk his previous brand for money. This would also indicate that he was under the impression that it would be legally feasible. Shortly after Danny and Kenny had that meeting, the ZPI section and all their items disappeared from the web site. One can conclude that some legal issues came into play. I wanted to know if anyone actually knew more on this issue without guessing as to what happened.

So, because they wore the shirts that they work on cars in at the new facility.... As mentioned a LONG time ago, it was his intentions to bring over the company with him to turbochargers.com. HOWEVER, that is/was no longer the case. Just because he wore a shirt though, you are confused. Hope your confusion is clear now.
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Originally Posted by rhythmnsmoke
So, because they wore the shirts that they work on cars in at the new facility.... As mentioned a LONG time ago, it was his intentions to bring over the company with him to turbochargers.com. HOWEVER, that is/was no longer the case. Just because he wore a shirt though, you are confused. Hope your confusion is clear now.
I'm sorry, but everything WAS clear to me untill this post. It just doesn't make sense. "So, because they wore the shirts that they work on cars in at the new facility"? I'm having trouble following the grammer on that one!



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