MobileHID.com - The Best Waterproof HID Conversion kit!
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BTW - to save the people from reading 40 pages of info... here's a one post summary of why these kits are the best bang for the buck.
So I firmly believe people should make informed decisions. With that in mind, I thought I would share my findings of extensive testing on HID conversion kits from various manufacturers.
Here are just some of the boxes and ballasts.
And as you can tell, there are a lot of copy cats of the ever popular Philips kit.
However, there is one huge design flaw with the Philips kit. It isn't waterproof.
This is what the Philips kit uses to shield the ballast from the elements:
And this is what is inside:
These plastic housings can actually trap water in them long after you've washed your car or it has rained and there have been instances where the plastic housings have actually aided in the damaging of the ballast due to it trapping water.
Now if the "industry standard" has flaws, what makes a good HID conversion kit?
I've done extensive testing on many kits including Philips, McCulloch, TechOne, HID Cool, Goldeneye, Klight, Bosch, and even OEM ballasts and the kits I offer are by far, the best bang for the buck. I can honestly only say that because I've tested a lot of kits out there.
My stress test requirements:
1) The ballasts have to be rubber injected. This helps to ensure the ballasts can hold up the elements. I soaked my ballast in a bucket of water for days and it still fired up with no issues. Rubber injected ballasts ensures water will not harm the internals, but it also ensures electronic parts inside will not get jostled around during harsh driving conditions. The Philips kit failed this test, as did the Bosch kit. Other kits failed in other areas and did not make it to the water test.
2) A wire harness must provide power directly from the battery to the ballasts. For safety reasons, I do not believe HID ballasts should connect directly to your headlight plug for power. The IDEAL way is to have the headlight plug trigger a relay and the relay then sends power to the ballasts. The kits I offer have this ideal wiring schematic. All kits, including the popular McCulloch kit, failed this test except for the Philips kit but the Philips kit goes for more than $400 and is not rubber injected.
3) Good quality wiring. I have seen some kits that have really thin gauge wires and cheap looming that you would be ashamed to put on a go-kart. I don't believe in selling cheap crap so even though it costs me more to go with better wiring harnesses, I firmly believe it's worth it. Even then, my prices are so competitively low, my distributors often find themselves marking up prices to well over $350
4) All in one ballasts. This means, no external ignitors. The McCulloch kit failed this test since it has external ignitors. All other kits had integrated ignitors in their ballasts.
5) Universal wire connections with Philips and most ballast manufacturers. That means the ballasts will connect with the most common wire harness. McCulloch failed this test and the rest of the kits failed by not even having a wire harness included. Again, only the Philips kit and my kit came with one for my testing.
Yes, the ballasts are completely waterproof.
Thanks all.
Clifford
BTW - to save the people from reading 40 pages of info... here's a one post summary of why these kits are the best bang for the buck.
So I firmly believe people should make informed decisions. With that in mind, I thought I would share my findings of extensive testing on HID conversion kits from various manufacturers.
Here are just some of the boxes and ballasts.
And as you can tell, there are a lot of copy cats of the ever popular Philips kit.
However, there is one huge design flaw with the Philips kit. It isn't waterproof.
This is what the Philips kit uses to shield the ballast from the elements:
And this is what is inside:
These plastic housings can actually trap water in them long after you've washed your car or it has rained and there have been instances where the plastic housings have actually aided in the damaging of the ballast due to it trapping water.
Now if the "industry standard" has flaws, what makes a good HID conversion kit?
I've done extensive testing on many kits including Philips, McCulloch, TechOne, HID Cool, Goldeneye, Klight, Bosch, and even OEM ballasts and the kits I offer are by far, the best bang for the buck. I can honestly only say that because I've tested a lot of kits out there.
My stress test requirements:
1) The ballasts have to be rubber injected. This helps to ensure the ballasts can hold up the elements. I soaked my ballast in a bucket of water for days and it still fired up with no issues. Rubber injected ballasts ensures water will not harm the internals, but it also ensures electronic parts inside will not get jostled around during harsh driving conditions. The Philips kit failed this test, as did the Bosch kit. Other kits failed in other areas and did not make it to the water test.
2) A wire harness must provide power directly from the battery to the ballasts. For safety reasons, I do not believe HID ballasts should connect directly to your headlight plug for power. The IDEAL way is to have the headlight plug trigger a relay and the relay then sends power to the ballasts. The kits I offer have this ideal wiring schematic. All kits, including the popular McCulloch kit, failed this test except for the Philips kit but the Philips kit goes for more than $400 and is not rubber injected.
3) Good quality wiring. I have seen some kits that have really thin gauge wires and cheap looming that you would be ashamed to put on a go-kart. I don't believe in selling cheap crap so even though it costs me more to go with better wiring harnesses, I firmly believe it's worth it. Even then, my prices are so competitively low, my distributors often find themselves marking up prices to well over $350
4) All in one ballasts. This means, no external ignitors. The McCulloch kit failed this test since it has external ignitors. All other kits had integrated ignitors in their ballasts.
5) Universal wire connections with Philips and most ballast manufacturers. That means the ballasts will connect with the most common wire harness. McCulloch failed this test and the rest of the kits failed by not even having a wire harness included. Again, only the Philips kit and my kit came with one for my testing.
Yes, the ballasts are completely waterproof.
Thanks all.
Clifford
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Maximthegreat -
Lifetime warranty - yes. As long as you use the product as intended in an environment where you would normally mount electrical equipment. For example, while the ballast and bulb are waterproof, I wouldn't try to mount this entire hid kit (including relay) under a boat and expect it to work indefinitely since the relay can fail. Essentially, the warranty covers the functionability of the ballasts and bulbs and the wire harness as long as it is not abused or mounted under your car and subjected to salt corrosion. If a relay happens to fail, relays can be purchased at your local Radio Shack for approximately $12.
The manufacturer isn't a name brand manufacturer but rest assured, these kits are made to last and I've done some serious testing of many kits to compare. Also, unlike other distributors on here, these aren't drop shipped from some other location, I inventory and ship EVERY SINGLE ONE.
The installation into a Scion tC is very easy and I personally have done a couple of installs into them.
Thanks.
Clifford
Lifetime warranty - yes. As long as you use the product as intended in an environment where you would normally mount electrical equipment. For example, while the ballast and bulb are waterproof, I wouldn't try to mount this entire hid kit (including relay) under a boat and expect it to work indefinitely since the relay can fail. Essentially, the warranty covers the functionability of the ballasts and bulbs and the wire harness as long as it is not abused or mounted under your car and subjected to salt corrosion. If a relay happens to fail, relays can be purchased at your local Radio Shack for approximately $12.
The manufacturer isn't a name brand manufacturer but rest assured, these kits are made to last and I've done some serious testing of many kits to compare. Also, unlike other distributors on here, these aren't drop shipped from some other location, I inventory and ship EVERY SINGLE ONE.
The installation into a Scion tC is very easy and I personally have done a couple of installs into them.
Thanks.
Clifford
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Hey Cliffud, love the 5000k kit you sent, finally was able to install it last Friday. Let me just say it was beautiful and I loved it!
Only question I have though is if I get the foglights I am looking at, they use H3s and I need H3 5000K, but I wasnt able to find if you had those, Can you verify for me? Thanks man!
Only question I have though is if I get the foglights I am looking at, they use H3s and I need H3 5000K, but I wasnt able to find if you had those, Can you verify for me? Thanks man!
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Originally Posted by cliffud
equinox - sorry man, no H3 5k but i'm scheduled to have another delivery in the next couple of weeks. I'll make sure I bring in a set for you.
Thanks Cliffud! You are the man!
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Originally Posted by cliffud
Hey man, I was going to let it be a surprise but it went out in the mail yesterday. 
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daneisthegreatest - yes. i have two types of yellow HIDs for the xB fog lights. one is a darker color and the other is a lighter color. The darker color is more like the jdm fog light color like the IS300 fogs.
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