FrankenScion

Jeez........Why not just get it fixed and not have to hassle with it anymore?
If it was the station why would Toyota come out with a TSB to fix it?
I've had it done, it makes a world of difference.
Just do it! (it doesn't cost you anything)

hnefrdo

sounds good.

psyontific

eesh I'm going somewhere there is peace

Max

Technical Service Bulletin. It's a notice to dealers that whatever needs to be fixed or replaced if the customer complains, not quite a recall as the problems are not dangerous, just annoyances like rattles, A/C not being cold enough, or a gas tank not accepting gas as fast as it should.

ToBeeyach

I had the problem in my Jeep, but not since i got my tC. I know with my Jeep i had to screw around with it until it would take the gas. The pumps withouth the vapor seal never gave me a problem.... anyways, good luck!

patrickz_unTC

u just pull the nozzle out about half way and it will not lock up. Some new cars it does this but just pull it out a little while ur pumping and itll b a ok.

cubaricantC

I know I'm a bit late on the subject but I figure I can add some of my knowledge to this. I'm a Fuels Tech for the Air Force so I know a little bit about how all this works. The cutting off is going to largely depend on the station and condition of the pumps, how fast they flow and how much volume is being pushed through, combined with the angle of your inlet valve the higher the rate the more backpressure and more shutoffs. Another factor is outside temp and fuel temp, the higher they are the more vapor you get and the more pressure that builds up in your tank and piping and without a proper vent it has nowhere to go so it causes the nozzle to shutoff. There's no real fixing the problem other than slowing down the flow rate or replacing your fuel systems pipes with a better vented system.

FrankenScion

Not trying to flame you or anything but, if you haven't read this whole post you really shouldn't comment.

There is a TSB (Technical Service Bulletin) out on it. I have had it fixed, as have many others. Its just an inherrent problems that most xB's have.

cubaricantC

I read the whole thing that was mainly for the tCs which if i'm not mistaken there is no TSB for. Maybe if youd read the whole thing you could have figured that one out.

I know you weren't trying to flame or whatever but I think I have the right to put my 2 pennies in when I wan't to and please don't say this thread wasn't meant for tCs because there were just as many tC owners replying to this thread as xAs or xBs. I'm not trying to be rude or anything but people on these forums kinda need to calm themselves on the thread policing, Its just possible that maybe someone has read a previous post or missed one that was posted 2 years ago and find it a tad easier to repost to get more up to date info or maybe would like to add some info to something they think might be relevant. This is a forum not your lifes work. We come here we get and exchange info and ideas, we shouldn't have to deal with everytime we post something someone wants to delete it or get chewed out because it was posted before on aug 15 1998 or something like that. All i'm trying to say is if the post isn't overly vulgar and demeaning in any way towards someone and its not offending anyone leave it alone.

Marshall

My ole' man told me a long time ago that you shouldn't place the fuel spout all the way inside of the gas tank nozzle. I wish he was hear so i could ask him why...

But low and behold, I try it and... the auto lock works while refueling!

little_black_box

Toyota designed the hole to be smaller so that people didn’t accidentally try filling up with diesel fuel.

lucky

there is a service bulletin out for this. has anyone tried to get their dealer to fix the problem?

Make: TOYOTA
Model: SCION TC
Year: 2005
Type: PASSENGER CAR
Service Bulletin Number: 04904
NHTSA Item Number: 10011811
Summary Description:
DIFFICULTY ADDING FUEL TO THEIR VEHICLES. AN IMPROVED FUEL TANK AND FUEL TANK FILLER INLET PIPE HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED TO CORRECT THIS CONDITION. *NM

mrtc

Actually, I've never seen that problem with my tC. Maybe it's just the early VINs?

Used to happen all the time with other cars I've had...my guess is that they changed the gas pump laws in WA a few years back (stations no longer have those big "vapor return" things attached to the nozzle) and that made a difference.

studentper

I had the problem with my xA and took it in. They replaced the tank and now I have no problems filling.

I also have to add that my mileage has been consistently better since getting the tank replaced. (I know, it really shouldn't be related, but I have no other explanation.)

lucky

I attempted to have the service bulletin performed and the toyota dealership reported having no record of it in their system. they refused to look at my printout of the above bulletin.

George

To expand on this, the TSB calls for the replacement of the following components:

Fuel Tank, replace 77001-52080 with 77001-52180
Fuel Filler Pipe, replace 77201-52170 with 77201-52270
Exhaust Pipe Gasket 17451-21030 (Exhaust has to be removed to remove tank)
Compression Springs (2) 90501-35036 (only if free length of spring doesn't meet spec)
Check Valve Gasket 77177-33010

When you're taking your car in for this work, be sure that you run the tank almost empty. No tech likes to have to deal with 10 gallons of gasoline!

George

lucky

Scion Corporate is claiming the NHTSA screwed up and that the tC does not have an official fix out.
Can anyone confirm or deny this?

atomoverride

I fill up at Costco, Shell, and a Chevron once. No issues here.

engifineer

I have seen lists of the TSBs for the tC, and none included this one.

George

They are correct. The NHTSA site shows a TSB that is supposdly for a tC, but the TSB number is for the xA/xB document.