not to mention in states where abortions were illegal befor ebut are legal now....the numbers are pretty much the same before and after on # of people getting it.

Making abortion illegal will not stop it, it will only make more unsafe of medical places for women to get it done. And you can take that fact to the bank.

 

have you guys seen how they abort babies?

i mean sucking them out and all...and theyre people that want that to be legal?

 

^^ exactly


not to mention almost 2/3 of all kids sit in foster care/home suntil they are 18...so not as many people to adopt as u think

 

I think it should be illegal to do to babies but okay for the 15 to 25 years old crowd.

 

Of course it should be legal. If it's illegal, then the black market will control it, and the black market always makes the trade of said product or service 1000 times more dangerous and lots more expensive.

If anti-abortionists reeeaaaaly wanted to have fewer abortions performed (as opposed to their current track of simply trying to legislate morality), then what they need to do is take the tremendous resources that their group has and redirect their efforts to making adoption much easier with laws favoring the adopting parents. Next thing they would do is go out and market at clinics, passing out cards that are non-accusatory simply saying, "There's another option, we'd love to adopt your baby."

 

no doubt, but I think it's the logical/smart thing to do. I don't think anyone here would argue that a rape victim should have to carry a rapists child, but then you got the other side of the coin where you have a whole bunch of women who falsely cry rape. And if you made abortion legal for ONLY rape victims, how would you prove it was a rape in a court of law ni a super speedy manner? Things like that take months. I feel this is the only way to allow abortions, without them getting out of control(I got a family member who has a "frequent shoppers card" at the abortion clinic).

Before i had a kid, i didn't care. Since then, I feel there has to be an actual penalty to abortion for the woman.

 

If most Americans were Buddhist, there's a load of stuff that wouldn't even be discussed.

 

okay, the problem with this "if she is raped, it is okay" because if that was the law, i guarentee you we will see a sharp increase in rapes. a woman would just say she was raped to get the okay for the abortion, and it is hard to prove it did or didn't happen.

i think it should be legal for the purpose of safety. just because you outlaw it doesn't mean it won't happen, and next problem you'll have is women dieing from illegal back-alley abortions using unsafe and infectious dangerous procedures. or, people would just go outside the country, canada, or mexico, or whereever to get their abortion performed.

 

Good. They deserve to die. Karma.

~Stephanie

 

And if we were all Muslim, women would be <dogs.
So how's that relevant?

 

That's not exactly a healthy Christian attitude.

 

I honestly believe that this isn't about a woman's body or if what's inside of her a "person" or what not. I believe this all boils down to the core of democracy. This debate is more of "choice" and the right to choose than it is about anything else. WHat's inside of a woman is her's, and what's inside has never been proven if whether it's a person or not...

I don't care if you're against or for abortion, it's about a woman's right of "choice" and I never enlisted in the US Army to defend freedom. To leave and come home just so that the right of "choice" has been restricted on a "technicality"

 

Human Life is not a "technicality"
Go spend some more time in school.
Being free doesn't mean absolutely free to do ANYTHING you want...

 

it should be illlegal by all means no excuses, and the whole rape thing, im pretty sure less than 1% or abortions are due to rape, people deserve to live, wuts the diff of killing somehting living thats inside someone, and killing someone who is just walking down the street, is it ok for people to walk around with guns and shoot people they see?? BAM BAM alright HEADSHOT sweet abortion........no i dont think so

 

ok so if someones raped, has an abortion, and 10 yrs later wants a kid but cant because they are sterile...what do you do? If a woman has an abortion @15 and wants a kid at 25, what then...sorry?

60% of all women in the USA have an abortion at some point in their life and 45% of women are raped at one point or another in their life. If i keep boiling out more numbers you'll quickly find out that within a generation or 2, your gonna run out of women capable of having children completely.

Not only is this wrong, its unethical, and especially an abnormal way of thinking if you desire the extinction of your own species...

 

yes it is a technicality.
OK, define "human"

Is a single cell organism that has human dna and chromosomes a human?
If so, then so is blood and semen.

 

WTF are you talking about 75% of all women are raped?
You're HIGH!

 

that's what I was saying. If you make it illegal but legal for rape victims you got a double edged sword.

1. women who do not wish the maybe will falsely claim they were raped and maybe send an innocent man to prison.

2. women that ARE raped (going back to the beating thread) will NOT say the next day "hey i was raped i dont want the kid and voila'"

so it won't work.

Either illegal for every one or legal for everyone.

 

yes, the choices! that is the most important part of all. if you view abortion as morally wrong then guess what? YOU NEVER EVER HAVE TO HAVE ONE! it is up to you. but if you don't have any problems with the moral or ethical implications, and can afford it, the choice is yours.

if you want to deem it as murder, then where does it end? capital punishment will be outlawed, it will be illegal to sell feeder rats to snake owners. you can't put your sick smelly blind three-legged dog to sleep etc.

this is the usa, you are here to live your life and only your life and you can't make the choices that severely effect the lives of others besides maybe your own children. let other people live their lives the way they want to without disturbing the happiness of others.

by the way, nobody even mentioned abortion if the life of the mother is endangered by the pregnancy? what do you do then? is it murder to kill the mother to save the child? or to let the child be born and let the mother die? who do you save? guess what, you have no right to determine who lives or dies, but the mother does. she can choose if she wants to live or if she cares more about her child than herself.

 

1%!?!

you OBVIOUSLY got yr stats wrong. Especially since not all rape victims report rape.

And it's diff. to "end" the life of something that still has no life than a 30 yr old person.