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Originally Posted by krustytheclown
Originally Posted by guitarguru44
oh and i dont argue this as a religious issue and further more here is a list off things I think hould be made legal (not joking)
1. drugs, and pretty much all illegal substances including steriods, etc.
2. drinking age and voting age should be moved to 18,
3. death sentence should be eliminated and replaced with life in jail..
4. prostitution should be legal
thats about it for now.. It's not that I am overly against anything because of religion or social implications, etc.
1. drugs, and pretty much all illegal substances including steriods, etc.
2. drinking age and voting age should be moved to 18,
3. death sentence should be eliminated and replaced with life in jail..
4. prostitution should be legal
thats about it for now.. It's not that I am overly against anything because of religion or social implications, etc.
2. Isnt the voting age 18 now? I dont know, I dont vote. Its a waste of time. No Man will ever bring Peace into this $&%$box of a world. Drinking on the other hand, I agree with. If you are old enough to be in the military, get married, buy a gun; you should be able to drink.
3. Are you out of your mind? So a person that brutally rapes and murders a 12 year old girl; or a terrorist that kills hundreds of people; or a cop killer should not be executed? An eye for an eye. Get rid of the Death Sentence as it is now, and let the family of the victim(s) decide how to take care of the problem,
4. Reminds me of a Chris Rock joke.
2. Personally I hate kids who drink and drive, but what can you do. The federal government has given each state the option to either have an 18year old drinking age, or money for their interstate highways. But you should vote, maybe not for the president(depending on what state you live in, me my electoral votes will always be dem, so there is no point), but voting for your senators, reps and governor is more important to the individual anyway.
3. I think the death penalty is good. I got the green river killer up here, while he's not getting the death penalty for his plea deal, that man deserves death 50fold.
4. i agree it shold be legal, only so that prostitutes get cheked for disease like in nevada. how many wifes, girlfriends and kids get diseases because ole dad got one from a hooker. prostitution is never going away, so why not make it safer?
I have not read the first 8 pages of this thread nor do I plan to. I'm sure it's much like every other thread I've seen about abortion. Let me tell you where I'm coming from on this one. My wife is the executive director of two crisis pregnancy centers. She has seen it all...every possible situation and all imaginable ages. I can tell you that there is NO way to justify having an abortion. No matter how bad the situation is, that baby is innocent. That baby has done nothing to deserve the death penalty. If the mother doesn't want the baby, there are thousands of couples who are waiting to adopt. Abortion is killing a human life, period. The centers she runs do ultrasounds and I can promise you that even at a very early stage in fetal development ,that baby is not just, "A mass of tissues and cells." It is a baby. It looks like a baby, it moves independantly of the mother, it has a heartbeat, reflexes and sleep patterns. All of this talk about the mother's rights and the mother's body are fine, but what about the baby's rights and the baby's body. In MANY cases, babies are aborted at a point in development where they could have easily survived outside of the womb. Abortion is sickening.
Originally Posted by matt_a
I can tell you that there is NO way to justify having an abortion. No matter how bad the situation is, that baby is innocent.
i don't think anyone would want a child inbred so bad.
Originally Posted by seattledave
Originally Posted by matt_a
I can tell you that there is NO way to justify having an abortion. No matter how bad the situation is, that baby is innocent.
i don't think anyone would want a child inbred so bad.
This is not a black and white debate. Abortion should be legal for instances of rape, incest, and right to life of the mother. As a method of birth control is should not be permitted. Here is my reason why. For every thing you do in life there is a consequence, it can be either good or bad. When two people consent to having sex on consequence from that action is pregnancy. I don't think that you should take the "easy" way out and terminate the pregnancy early because having a baby is inconvienient to you. When you have an abortion as a method of birth control you are being obsolved from the consequenses of your actions. If you are enought of a "grown up" to have sex you have to face your responsibilities. Give the child up for adoption. I also say that because both my wife and I are adopted.
Originally Posted by javastan
This is not a black and white debate. Abortion should be legal for instances of rape, incest, and right to life of the mother. As a method of birth control is should not be permitted.
Originally Posted by javastan
This is not a black and white debate. Abortion should be legal for instances of rape, incest, and right to life of the mother. As a method of birth control is should not be permitted. Here is my reason why. For every thing you do in life there is a consequence, it can be either good or bad. When two people consent to having sex on consequence from that action is pregnancy. I don't think that you should take the "easy" way out and terminate the pregnancy early because having a baby is inconvienient to you. When you have an abortion as a method of birth control you are being obsolved from the consequenses of your actions. If you are enought of a "grown up" to have sex you have to face your responsibilities. Give the child up for adoption. I also say that because both my wife and I are adopted.
Originally Posted by Jessicagmz
Originally Posted by Tito_Cruz
man...there are way too many posts to reply to since yesterday...but here's what I can handle.
I think alot of online debates get bad because it's hard to differentiate the tone. You're right, I don't have to worry about giving birth. I didn't mean any harm with the comment.
"Yelling" came from the "rules" list. It just states not to write in all caps because it is considered yelling and rude....that's all.
You didn't offend me and you don't have to apologize....
but I will take that beer...
I think alot of online debates get bad because it's hard to differentiate the tone. You're right, I don't have to worry about giving birth. I didn't mean any harm with the comment.
"Yelling" came from the "rules" list. It just states not to write in all caps because it is considered yelling and rude....that's all.
You didn't offend me and you don't have to apologize....
but I will take that beer...
About the "rules"......I agree........it does state not to write in all caps because it's considered yelling and rude.
But.......still trying to figure out where I wrote in all caps
I think you just couldn't post fast enough to flame me...........that you overlooked that
As for the debate. Yeah, it's fun. Just not when people start pulling hair out and breaking monitors over it.
Age has nothing to do with it though but I see where you were going with that.
It's a maturity thing.
Originally Posted by matt_a
I have not read the first 8 pages of this thread nor do I plan to. I'm sure it's much like every other thread I've seen about abortion. Let me tell you where I'm coming from on this one. My wife is the executive director of two crisis pregnancy centers. She has seen it all...every possible situation and all imaginable ages. I can tell you that there is NO way to justify having an abortion. No matter how bad the situation is, that baby is innocent. That baby has done nothing to deserve the death penalty. If the mother doesn't want the baby, there are thousands of couples who are waiting to adopt. Abortion is killing a human life, period. The centers she runs do ultrasounds and I can promise you that even at a very early stage in fetal development ,that baby is not just, "A mass of tissues and cells." It is a baby. It looks like a baby, it moves independantly of the mother, it has a heartbeat, reflexes and sleep patterns. All of this talk about the mother's rights and the mother's body are fine, but what about the baby's rights and the baby's body. In MANY cases, babies are aborted at a point in development where they could have easily survived outside of the womb. Abortion is sickening.
~Stephanie
I too have no intention of reading the other 8 pages, just putting in my two cents:
It is a womans body and it is her choice...PERIOD. The embryo/fetus/baby is hers to do with as she wishes for the first trimester as far as I am concerned. If she makes the choice to abort because (insert ANY reason here), I am in full support. Yes, even for something as shallow as diminishing her beauty.
We have WAY to many people on this Earth, WAY too many people starving in second and third world nations, not to mention this nation right here. I will never understand why so many breeders insist that a woman losses her choice to do with her body what she wishes. If you don’t want an abortion, don’t get one. But don’t impose your morality onto others who do not share in your religious indoctrination.
It is a womans body and it is her choice...PERIOD. The embryo/fetus/baby is hers to do with as she wishes for the first trimester as far as I am concerned. If she makes the choice to abort because (insert ANY reason here), I am in full support. Yes, even for something as shallow as diminishing her beauty.
We have WAY to many people on this Earth, WAY too many people starving in second and third world nations, not to mention this nation right here. I will never understand why so many breeders insist that a woman losses her choice to do with her body what she wishes. If you don’t want an abortion, don’t get one. But don’t impose your morality onto others who do not share in your religious indoctrination.
Originally Posted by HeathenBrewing
I too have no intention of reading the other 8 pages, just putting in my two cents:
It is a womans body and it is her choice...PERIOD. The embryo/fetus/baby is hers to do with as she wishes for the first trimester as far as I am concerned. If she makes the choice to abort because (insert ANY reason here), I am in full support. Yes, even for something as shallow as diminishing her beauty.
We have WAY to many people on this Earth, WAY too many people starving in second and third world nations, not to mention this nation right here. I will never understand why so many breeders insist that a woman losses her choice to do with her body what she wishes. If you don’t want an abortion, don’t get one. But don’t impose your morality onto others who do not share in your religious indoctrination.
It is a womans body and it is her choice...PERIOD. The embryo/fetus/baby is hers to do with as she wishes for the first trimester as far as I am concerned. If she makes the choice to abort because (insert ANY reason here), I am in full support. Yes, even for something as shallow as diminishing her beauty.
We have WAY to many people on this Earth, WAY too many people starving in second and third world nations, not to mention this nation right here. I will never understand why so many breeders insist that a woman losses her choice to do with her body what she wishes. If you don’t want an abortion, don’t get one. But don’t impose your morality onto others who do not share in your religious indoctrination.
I'm Catholic and I think abortion should remain legal.
Everyone needs to mind their own business.
If indeed it's a "murder" then that person shall be judged by God Himself, not a bunch of protestors here on Earth.
Everyone needs to mind their own business.
If indeed it's a "murder" then that person shall be judged by God Himself, not a bunch of protestors here on Earth.
Originally Posted by tC4italy
I'm Catholic and I think abortion should remain legal.
Everyone needs to mind their own business.
If indeed it's a "murder" then that person shall be judged by God Himself, not a bunch of protestors here on Earth.
Everyone needs to mind their own business.
If indeed it's a "murder" then that person shall be judged by God Himself, not a bunch of protestors here on Earth.
Originally Posted by matt_a
Originally Posted by tC4italy
I'm Catholic and I think abortion should remain legal.
Everyone needs to mind their own business.
If indeed it's a "murder" then that person shall be judged by God Himself, not a bunch of protestors here on Earth.
Everyone needs to mind their own business.
If indeed it's a "murder" then that person shall be judged by God Himself, not a bunch of protestors here on Earth.
so getting raped is a woman's whim??????????????
Originally Posted by tC4italy
I'm Catholic and I think abortion should remain legal.
Everyone needs to mind their own business.
If indeed it's a "murder" then that person shall be judged by God Himself, not a bunch of protestors here on Earth.
Everyone needs to mind their own business.
If indeed it's a "murder" then that person shall be judged by God Himself, not a bunch of protestors here on Earth.
(is it only because of your heritage?)
call yourself semi-catholic, or say i have some catholic views, and goto a catholic church.
it the same with viewing homosexuality, it's against your religion.
you can't be a peta member and support the killing of chickens for food.
Originally Posted by seattledave
Originally Posted by tC4italy
I'm Catholic and I think abortion should remain legal.
Everyone needs to mind their own business.
If indeed it's a "murder" then that person shall be judged by God Himself, not a bunch of protestors here on Earth.
Everyone needs to mind their own business.
If indeed it's a "murder" then that person shall be judged by God Himself, not a bunch of protestors here on Earth.
(is it only because of your heritage?)
call yourself semi-catholic, or say i have some catholic views, and goto a catholic church.
it the same with viewing homosexuality, it's against your religion.
you can't be a peta member and support the killing of chickens for food.
But it's like with every religion there are different vies of some matters. And the interpretation of the Bible sometimes is not accurate.
I pray and I confess to God in my prayers also.
Ultimately I will stand before Him not a bunch of protestors with "pro life" "anti ___" banners.
Originally Posted by tC4italy
Errrrr.....whim?
so getting raped is a woman's whim??????????????
so getting raped is a woman's whim??????????????
Originally Posted by matt_a
Originally Posted by tC4italy
Errrrr.....whim?
so getting raped is a woman's whim??????????????
so getting raped is a woman's whim??????????????
All good.
Originally Posted by tC4italy
If indeed it's a "murder" then that person shall be judged by God Himself...
Just my .02.













