That's another thing... Would you say that ther eare "blessings from god" in your life that you didn't necessarily pray for (i.e. your family and lifestyle are blessings). Well it's nice that he get's the credit for everything good but when you have shoulder problems(good luck) it's not God's fault.

 

yes i would say God has blessed me with an awesome family, and as far as my shoulder i cant blame God it happened in a wrestling match senior year in HS i was slammed, i cant and will not blame God for that, trust me i know its easy to blame God i think every1 has done it including me and alotta other christians, but regaurdless what life throws at me, i will still belive in God as my savior and still follow his word and thats all tehre is to it

 

25 pages and no girls! LOL... We could start a thread and label it "Poitics/religion" then talk about all the stuff we wouldn't talk about in front of the girls and they would never know. LOL!!!

 

king david is the one and only mortal to be above any of the rest of us. God even said so, and said he'd not love another man like that again. Ask your preacher or someone who actually knows about the bible if king david was god's favorite. I was surprised to learn it too. The reason why is back in the old testament, you do something bad, god didn't hesitate to kill you or plague you. and if you lived, you had to go kill some of your sheep. Well King David lived back in this day, but a few times right after sinning David said "i know i did wrong, but before you cap my azz, listen to my sincere apology". god had not stopped to listen before. At that point in the bible, god begins to change, and only a short while later did we get jesus.

and god and jesus are not the same. I know all about the holy trinity that came late in the christian game, but Jesus did not ever ask to have animals slaughtered in his name. God did.

 

ok well i believe God and Jesus are one in the same, so this thread will never go anywwhere being that we have diff beliefs, needless to say im impressed with your knowledge of the bible so i think thats pretty cool, umm yeahhhhh

 

My point is that God can not be only responsible for the good things, either he is responsible for everything or nothing.
Please don't bother writing that you believe ni god and always will because none of us care one way or the other. As a matter a fact I would be dissapointed if you stoped believing. The only people who like to convert here are the theist as it gives them more power.

 

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To elaborate because I love to point this out when Theist think I'm trying to "convert" them...
People killed because they would not convert to Atheist - 0
People killed because they would not worship christian god - innumerable (millions)

 

god and jesus became one and the same. but before jesus was born, there was no holy trinity.

you shouldn't be so much impressed with my "knowledge" of the bible and christianity, you should be embarassed about yours.

When I was ignorant of christianity I believed it in wholely, prayed, church, private school and all that b.s.
After I gained an knowledge of it, I came to realise so much of it is false.

get yourself some unbiased knowledge about your own religion and you'll either be stronger in your faith(i'm just throwing that bone out there for you) or you'll understand it's a load of bull.

Isn't it crazy how the most ignorant states(i.e. the ones with the most high school dropouts and least amount of college educated people) in the U.S. have the highest amount of religious believers and the most educated places have the least?

 

have you atheist seen the stand up called vicious circle by dane cook? there is an interesting part about religion and atheism in there you might want to check it out

why are we all challenging each others beliefs? For those who say they don't believe in nothing (atheist) then that is believing in something in its self... being an atheist is believing in not believing and therefor is a religion.

Sure there may not be "scientific" proof of an existance etc. etc. but when something goes wrong in our (theist) lives and we have no one else to turn to we can turn to God for help, comfort, support... who can you go to? you can say what you want but I didn't come here to argue I just thought I would state a few things and be on my way

 

as stated on the page befor ethis, yeah no enemies or hard feelings with everyone. id be more than glad to have you guys over to drink a few while watching football at my house. Just like to get into the argument, thats all. now on to business.



when something goes wrong in my life, i dont turn to a god. I think about why it happened and how to prevent it. I take comfort in knowing that it will never happen again and that i now posess the knowledge to help others avoid it. Thats pretty comforting to me.

Considering the world we live in these days, i take comfort just knowing that im alive every day. Its a dangerous world.

 

sure have. he's very talented, can do 2+ hours of standup. He through in a few unintelligible statements about atheists. have you seen Jesus is Magic by Sarah Silverman?

____, i wish it was a religion. Build hundred million dollar buildings to show off my clothes in, and never have to pay a penny of taxes ever? I believe in reality. I just don't add fantasy elements to reality, like religious people do.

you mean you turn to your brain for comfort. you put yourself in a trance, and pray to nothing which gives you hope. You know endorphines and seratonin get released into your blood stream when you do a prolonged serious prayer session, right? That makes it feel good and rewarding.

Since you liked vicious circle, i'm sure you remember "I did my best, I did my best, I did my best". That's the same type of hype you give yourself when you pray. please read the threads before you comment in them.

 

just out of curiousity. how does everyone feel about church bells ringing to signify the time evry hour?

i saw on that show bull$H!T w/ penn and teller about how there is a town that now has a loud speaker that recites the muslim "call to prayer" prayer 5 times a day. How do you guys feel about that?

 

There are 25 pages, and today was the first day I stumbled upon it... my apologies. One question I do have is what do you have to look forward to after you have passed away? I know that christians have the thought of going to heaven and that makes it comforting to us but the sheer reality is we don't know. I would love to go to heaven and be with all of my loved ones and live happily ever after, but we just don't know. You being an atheist, what do you have to look forward to? I am sorry if this has been answered previously, but just curious.

I know there are a lot of scientific facts saying we basically tell ourselves we can do it and we comfort ourselves, but how do you explain the unexplained. How do you explain something that happens when it isn't supposed to? Pure luck?

Wow you think all of us church go-ers add fantasy elements and state you don't? Do you have dreams, ambitions, wants in your life? Those, in a way, are fantasy elements, and we have the same as well. I do see your point about how we may add some "fantasy" elements in our lives but how can you say you don't, in one form or another (not just talking about beliefs). Yes I agree the money for the churches should go to where it is needed, we don't need bigger and better churches, we just need a place of worship... But thats the way things have become in today's society. It also amazes me that Religion has been taken out of Public schools, but yet on our money it says "In God We Trust" and it seems as though there are no complaints there.

Yes dane cook is very talented I agree, and I was just joking about the atheist part in his stand up, but it was pretty rude of that guy if that story were true. I have not seen Jesus is Magic, why should I see it? I may watch it if you give a good reason, I don't mind seeing all sides of the arguements, after all in grade school and high school it seemed as though I learned more about other religions than my own.

 

1) dane cook is hilarious

2) dont bother to see jesus is magic. sarah silverman is an idiot and i cant stand her. her voice is like rubbing a fresh blister on a rough piece of wood to me. i hate her. but thats just my opinion

 

Why is it that everyone thinks God and Jesus are the same? Why cant anyone explain the scriptures I posted. They prove that God and Jesus are different.

 

You are correct...the question has been answered at least 3 times. Im sure I am asking too much for you to read the entire thread, but if you want an answer, that you should.

 

That too has been covered.

 

I really like this debate. I just want to know people's opinions about this: Are we evolving or are we simply adapting to what evolution gives us and thus settling for something we ultimately don't have control over? It seems that evolution works against us and we are the ones that must adapt, not us evolving with the world, nor the world evolving to what we want.

 

turbo charged...
Atheist believe that when you die you cease to exists, just like when you get knocked out. Your not aware of anything that was, is or will be. It's a scary as hell thought, trust me I know. Kind of makes you want to make the most of what little time you have. I feel sorry for all the people that think they have an eternity to live so they don't accomplish everything they can while they are alive.