I have noticed god is not too found of amputees. Never once has he 'miracled' an arm or leg to grow back.

 

Thats a pretty catchy phrase for "dont think for yourself, you might figure out that we are just filling in pages here".

 

you said :honestly, does that matter? Say my family was full of nuns and priests who lived and breathed christianity, are you saying that god hears people of a certain devotion more than others?

i would say it would help if you followed God for him to grant what you want

you said :yes they can. I can go around raping and murdering and then at the end of the day, accept jesus christ as my lord and saviour and openly and honestly ask that he forgive all my sins, and they are forgiven right? and if i died that next moment, I'd goto heaven according to what you believe.

that is very true, but after u accept God you cant go around doing all that stuff, i mean if you slip up you slip up God will forgive you, but you cant go into a sin saying oh its okay God will forgive me after anyway, and if you dont agree with my logic thats fine, im not forcing anything on you, and yeah your not supposed to understand all that God does thats why hes God and you not

 

when I went to christian school, my 11th grade science book said on the very first page "man does not need to understand all the answers, but look to god for them."

yes, in a science book. (btw, if you 've ever wondered what a christian school would teach in science, it's mostly all hands on experimentation and chemistry, you can't hardly teach biology because many animals are named and classified on stuff like hip bones, which evokes evolution)

 

God of the Gaps! strikes again!

 

i think we are scaring away anyone who is a theist.

 

and people who believe in evolution where is the missing link? its not 100% proven,. i think you need more faith to beleive in that than u do to believe God, but its okay im dont here, i cant keep up with all the posts, but if you still wana debate you can PM me with ur s/n or soemthing and ill talk there its easier, and again im not forcing anything on any1 beleive waht you want

 

freestyle789... Welcome to the thread.
But seriously you must be the most arrogant person ever to believe that god won't help the starving aids infested innocent children in Africa (I'll bet all they do is pray) but he will help you and your family because you are less of sinners!!!??? WOW. That's all I can say.

 

i never once said a thing about starving kids in africa, ive donated money to it before alot of churchs have funds for it, i was talking to dave b/c people seem to open bash God when they dont put the time in

 

so you're saying god listens to the more devote and grants them more wishes, i mean answers more prayers, if you are more devote than say a lax christian?

yes you can, ever heard about King David? he was a bastard. sinned then asked for forgiveness, sinned and asked for forgiveness. and yet he was god's favorite person ever.

 

and again i dont know why things happen im not God, i wish i could answer all those questions,

 

Ever wonder why allah and zeus always get short changed when it comes to granting miracles? You think that they too would be in the magic business, but it always seems to be the christian god.

"My god is better than your god"

 

i agreed with u on that, u can sin and ask for forgivness, i said you cant go into a sin and thinking its ok cuase God will just forgive me anyway, and no king david was not Gods most favorite person, and i didnt say that YOU HAVE TO BE A FULLY DEVOTED CHRISTIAN, i said that it would probably help, and having the knowledge i bet would help too, but i think the more time you spend with God...reading the bible and what not i think the more you will get back

 

Dude... You said that God is more likely to answer your prayers if you are more devout.
So if children in Africa are dying terrible deaths that I am positive they pray to prevent then by your logic it must be because you are better than they are. Shame on you.

 

Logic tends to scare the illogical.

 

LOL... and you aren't the first to say "I'm done here" and come back. It seems impossible as the topic just sucks you in.

 

i know, it seems im making alotta enemiies on this thread, i said i thjink it would help if you were devoted go back and read the post, dont put words in my mouth, i never said i was better than people in africa? i dont know where your getting that from

 

No enemies, don't worry about it. Things may get heated but I think we could all go grab a beer with no hard feelings.
devout=prayers answered
not devout=prayers not answered
starving childrens prayers=not answered=not devout
your prayers=answered=devout
your more devout than the starving children so your prayers were answered

Point being: To say that God answered any of your prayers based on anything you did is arrogant to say the least

 

yes he was. haven't studied the bible much, huh? Why was he the most favorite? Because he was totally honest in his prayers and so crazy devoted to him. King David helped god with patience when he was casting down his judgement. Kind David is probably the main reason he even decided to give us a saviour. God gave him more blessings and riches than any man ever.

Read Psalms.

I've spent much more time reading and studying the bible than you or most christians, but i've not gotten squat. Where's my cash and prizes? Surely not in heaven where all reward is supposed to be equal.

 

okay.... i never ever said if you are devoted your prayers will be answered, i have many unanswered, im going in for surgery on my shoulder at 19 im not gunna blame God tho, i really dont know where the africa thing came from, seatle dave you do seem to know the bible is the reason you dont believe cause you have not seen? and your right about the king david even tho i dont think God had favorites, i would say peter is next to him after peter denied him 3 times when God came back peter was teh 1st he wanted to see