I thought I would bring that back to this page due to the pics and the shots being taken at pete being referred to as kittens. I do not know pete personally but I am still a little offended by these things. I'm not trying to start and argument I would just like to see the personal attacks to him stop. Seeing as how it is part of the first rule and yes, even mods must follow them.

As to the understanding things take time. I'm pretty sure we all understand that and my intelligence being insulted everytime a mod makes a post about this situation is a little annoying. I have seen many people who yes they don't understand, but is it necessary to insult everyone of us? No. I'm here for one reason and thats to bring one of the best guys on scionlife back. And will support and watch after him or do whatever I must do to get this done.

BTW props hoodie, hell of a job keeping this going and clean (with a few spoiled apples)

-Drew

 

Agree, referring to him as "Kittens" sounds like a rule breaker.

 

I'll jump in and out really quickly here.
It's abundantly clear that Pete had a lot of support here... in fact, this is certainly the most I've ever seen the tC guys band together like this.

Even though it has been said numerous times before, maybe a fresh voice will drive it home. This situation is being discussed and the best way to show your support for Pete is by keeping this thread positive and keeping the demands out of it.

I understand that it was a big loss for SL... personally, never having really dealt with Pete I can't comment specifically about him, but I will say that I'm not thrilled with how this all went down.

Cory, thanks for trying to keep this civil.

 

which rule did he break, and show us how..

then, we'll probably be able to bring back another post of someone else, and show you the same thing..

 

X2, I'd like to know, for the simple reason that it seems like you guys (mods) are only strict about some rules and not others.

I have never seen a warning given out to a noob who didn't use the search feature, nor have I been given a warning for just telling them to search. Also, I've never seen a warning given out for someone typing in all caps. Another example is the signature. I've seen some people in violation of the '10 line maximum', and they've been in violation of it for well over a year. If you're going to strictly enforce the 'bashing' rule, you should enforce everything else. Otherwise, if you're going to cut a noob some slack for not reading the rules, then a site vet deserves the slack as well.

 

Superwhite, whenever some group of folks thinks it would be a fantastic idea "for everyone to put 'FREE Whoever' into all their signatures so people will know the mods did something we didn't like" the mods in turn think it is a very poor idea, and simply view it as a bunch of folks trying to make trouble - trying to stir things up.

The quickest and easiest way to nip that in the bud is to have the censorbot change every occurrence of the name to kittens (or puppies) until the folks making a fuss clean up their signatures and are no longer trying to foment dissent across the forums. Sometimes it takes a few longer to understand.

Once I see that "FREE Whoever" is no longer being advertised in signatures, I tell the censor bot to relax and go back to sleep, but as long as there are those who insist on pushing a public statement like that, as long as there are holdouts who refuse a polite request from the mods to remove it, the entire process (and the censorbot) are at a standstill.

This is nothing specifically against an ex-member of ScionLife, but is simply removing the impact of a bunch of "FREE Whoever" banners by making them read "FREE Kittens" until they are removed.

Once that happens, once people realize that it is better to discuss problems and work together than to draw lines, make demands, and create dissension, problems can often be worked out.

A little later this morning I will look around and see if there are still hold-outs with "FREE Whoever" in their sigs or locations. If it's all cleaned up, Pete goes back to being Pete, and resolution of the problem can begin.

Until then, I have a bunch of other things to do.

 

Here are the most commonly broken SL rules.
It's important to note that the Moderators do not see every single post that is made. You can call a specific post that you feel is breaking a rule to the Mod's attention by clicking the [!] at the top of the post. If you find something that you feel breaks a rule, please notify us of this so we can deal with it accordingly.

This is a big site. There is a lot of activity here, the Moderators are volunteers. We try to keep this place running as best we can, but we're not omnipotent. Alarm bells don't go off every time someone breaks a rule. If we see it, we act on it. Otherwise, it's up to the other users to bring something to our attention if we haven't otherwise seen it.

 

im pretty sure nebster has done his fair share of bashing.. (nothing personal, but you have done your fair share ) i don't understand why pete had to go.. apparently, there is 12 pages so far of keeping pete here, and all you've done is change his name to kitten. what makes you guys so much different from pete now?

 

There's a big difference between saying "I'm pretty sure this has happened" and flagging specific posts that indicate these problems. In order for a Moderator to make a judgment, they need proof of wrongdoing.

 

how about kittens?

 

BlkTC and CarbonXe, if you feel you need to know which rules were broken, talk to the person who broke them and hope you get an honest answer, because I won't tell you - that's between the person warned and the mods and none of your business unless the person who was warned wants to tell you.

I will say it wasn't anything as simple and benign as not using search, typing in all caps, or having too many lines in a signature.

As I said before, just because someone else breaks a rule doesn't mean the rule no longer applies. Someone else breaking a rule doesn't give everyone else a free pass to do the same.

If you think it does, next time a cop stops you for speeding or for illegal equipment or for an illegal turn, tell 'em other people do it too and see if he lets you off. Let us know how that goes, OK?

Now I really do have to get to the rest of the things I need to do...

 

Yeah ok, and those are laws(rules if you will) they were broken and they were punished.
same thing applies here. Rules were broken and he was punished. Done deal.
I don't see the whole "give him another chance" thing.
He WAS given another chance, 2 chances before he was banned. And as Thomas has said already both times he had promised to not do it again, now he is saying the same thing, why should ANYONE believe him?
wait this story sounds like another story, oh yeah The Boy Who Cried Wolf.

 

it's cuz he's done more good than harm.. well i think so.

 

Since we're on the topic of warnings, I've always wondered something about the "!" button. Does it tell you guys who hit the button, or does it just bring that post/thread to your attention?

 

and that still does mean that he can break the rules and get away with it.

If the Pope broke some rules should he not be punished cause he has done some good things?

 

priests do it and they get away sumtimes

 

right just like some people get away with breaking rules on here too.
some people get caught others don't.

he got caught more then once, promised that he would change and did not. Broke the rules AGAIN, and now he is banned. end of story.


Like I have said already, no one is making you stay here. If you don't like it leave.
Just like people move from diff countries, they did not like things so they left.

 

When you hit the button a link to the particular post the button was in, and whatever you type in are sent to a special forum that only the SuperMods and Admins can see. What we see is just like any other post, and has YOUR information on it to show who sent it.

HTH

 

interesting. never knew what that did and i'm an OG on this forum, lol.

anywho, i removed all the free tcpete stuff.

 

im just curious. Do these forums have suspensions? or do you go straight to ban. Perhaps thats a system that might work for everyone. First a suspension. Then a ban.