Sorry to say...but Ron paul has pretty much admitted to not having a chance.....i still have my bumper sticker on my ride...because like RP said...Its about the message now

 

Well, if he's about the message now and less about the Presidency he needs to guide the American people. Let them know what steps to take to help move change in the direction they would like it moved. Whether they are Democratic or Republican.

 

I was for Ron Paul until I actually looked deep into everything he stood for. Then I saw what Obama stood for and completely changed my outlook. I'm all for a complete overhaul in the government, but honestly, Ron Paul is just too far-fetched. Those kinds of things take time and the way Ron Paul was talking about it, seemed like it just wouldn't work out..especially in the current economical state that we're in. Other than the whole "change" topic with Paul, I was against almost every topic.

Back onto Obama...I think he will end up getting assassinated for trying to change too much, we'll have another JFK episode on our hands.

 

Exactly...dont forget to suscribe
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rk_vVaZxTno

 

The IRS deal would be honestly great to see come to end---but what would replace it (that gets scary)

 

I really don’t post much, but I really think that obama is a useless person. Check out what his religious leader in this campaign had to say about Americans and his thought, this man is a pastor and. Pretty much he is damning us to hell. This has made headlines on MSNBC, CNN and other national news stations.


www.youtube.com

and search obama pastor

 

tcTaco & CarbonXe...Language fellas...please edit your posts.

 

There... I edited mine

 

Hi, guys, *I* edited your outbursts, too.

Gee! Did they go missing?

Sorry - NOT.

You guys have been here long enough to know the rules - keep it clean or get it locked.

Simple.

 

Sorry Tom..... *bows head in shame*

 

Obama is just too slick to represent any real change. His vision is an old, worn out, failed one.

Paul is getting my vote. Period. I dont care about "spoilers" and the like....I do what I think is right. Period.

 

I honestly don't care what Obama says later today. Appearance counts for quite a bit in politics. The fact is his minister of choice has made comments that can be viewed as openly racist and divisive. Obama has attended this church for 17 years. He claims he's never heard this stuff before.

Appearance=Not good.

If it becomes revealed that McCain attended a church for 10 years, where the minister said things like black people invented aids to kill the white man, his career is over, regardless of how he denies it.

It's amusing to watch the news and see the media, either unconsciously or consciously, try to defend Obama. This caucasian guy was on MSNBC today saying that the minister really doesn't feel that way about white people. Er... dude... he blamed you for AIDS in the black community.

Again... if McCain or Hillary were in a similar situation to Obama, they'd be done. Big time double standard. I don't see why it has to be like that.

 

Overall, I am just happy that Bush's term is at its end. Either Obama or Hilary will fill the Bush's position and also bring some more peanuts to the table.

In terms of McCain, I do not see him as anything more than an angry, hot blooded American. The Republicans do not pose much of a threat to the political race this time around; Bush screwed his party over, unfortunately..

 

Ron Paul 2008!

That is all.

 

Actions, not words:

http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/new...D?OpenDocument

 

Of course there is a double standard. Does it make sense? Yes and no. The reality is that if you say "White Person", many different connotations come to mind. Politician, Redneck, Surfer, Valley Girl, Bro's, Trailer Trash, Doctors, Lawyers, etc. If you say "Black Person", you get images of a thug, rapper, or someone speaking in ebonics. If you hear the "Mexican", you think of some spanish speaking day worker, an illegal immigrant, etc.

Why do these images pop into the mind first? Because that's the image we constantly see and hear in our media. The image of White's is very diverse, but minorities aren't. As a result, you can't say things about minorities that you can say about Whites. I think it's silly too, but I also think the public perception of minorities (even among minorities themselves) is worse.

However, I don't see how the statements made by Pastor Jeremiah Wright fit in with this example. As far as I can tell, everything he said was true. Unflattering and unflinching, but true nonetheless. Let's examine shall we?

Pastor Wright said:

1) America is controlled by rich White People

Isn't that fact? I previously stated that the reason why we have the double standards in regards to racial comments is because of the perceptions perpetrated by the media. Who controls the media? Rich white people. You could argue that the most damaging blow to the Black image is "hip hop". Artists like Soulja Boy, Rick Ross, 50 Cent, Lil Wayne, etc. all reinforce negative stereotypes. We know for a FACT that what we see in the media affects our perception. There are countless studies that prove that. The owners of the various recording studios (who are rich and white)know that the lowest common denominator sells more. 80% of all hip hop is bought by suburban kids, most likely because they want to rebel against their parents and easy lifestyle. Do they want to listen to socially conscious hip hop that discusses real Black issues? Of course not. The less a person has to think the more they'll consume.

2) Jesus was a poor black man in a land controlled by rich White people.

Isn't this also fact? Recent studies have shown that Jesus was most likely dark skinned and had hair like wool. And doesn't Daniel 7:9 also allude to that? Weren't the Romans rich and White? They ruled all of the known world at the time!

3) Barrack doesn't fit the mold.

True right? Almost everything about him goes against what we commonly think of as a President. He's not old, white, he's pulling races and parties together. So far, Pastor Wright is 3 for 3...

4) Hillary doesn't know what it's like to be Black.

Another correct point right? It doesn't matter how many times she goes to a Black church for publicity sake, and tries to sing negro spirituals so she can appear to relate, she hasn't gone through most of the things that the Black people of her age group have experienced in their lifetimes. Heck, I never really believed that cops really went around profiling Blacks. Then I had a gun pulled on me while I was driving my old Toyota corolla because I looked "suspicious" while looking for a parking space so I could go to church.

5) Hillary was never called the N word.

Another fact right? Even if she has, it didn't have the same connotation as it would with Obama. His own White GRANDMOTHER admitted to using racial slurs against Blacks, and stated that she was afraid of Black men. We're at number 5, and I've yet to see something racist or even false!

6) Jesus taught his followers to love their enemies and not be reduced to their level of hatred.

I think that's true as well.

7) Hillary never had her own people say she wasn't White enough.

Maybe this one flew by a few people. Some Blacks play the "Blacker than thou" game. This goes back to slavery times when lighter skinned slaves were treated better than darker skinned slaves. If you're mixed, sometimes you may be perceived as not "Black enough" because of the way you act, talk, or even because you're socially at a higher standing because you look more like Whites. This was actually a comment directed at Black people by Pastor Wright. Another true statement I'd say.

Jesus had his own people side with the enemy

True right?

I'm not a democrat by enemy means, and I disagree with Obama about a LOT of things, but this is a non-issue. Perhaps some people are offended that Pastor Wright actually made this comments in a public forum. What makes him any different than Malcom X or Martin Luther King Jr. when they criticized the political structure of America? It's the same difference IMO. Black people talk about these issues all the time. For many Blacks, church and politics are entwined. They always have been. When the government was against minorities of any race, religion was a source of hope.

IMO, race relations will never go away in America. We have a severe lack of empathy. A recent study showed that minorities actually disliked other minorities far more than Whites, and that they'd rather do business with Whites. That shows that we have not improved as a nation yet. Whenever a Black person mentions race, the nation immediately thinks it's just another Black playing the race card. Blacks use race as a means to sometimes play the victim. Latino's use the victim card to justify illegal immigration (just trying to make money to support their families). It's a never ending cycle that never goes away. It sits right under the surface waiting to come up again...

 

I don't care how you break down what Rev. Wright said in those particular quotes. He did happen to call the USA the USKKK of A and he also said the N word and G.D. America. If Obama wants change then he shouldn't be following a pastor who is set in the days of the past as he said in his speech. If he follows someone who can't get out of the past how can he move forward to the future to make a change?

Also, Obama is a liar. The day before he made his speech he said he had never heard Rev. Wright say things of that nature then the next day in his speech he said he did. Obama is worthless.

 

He grew up during a time when that was very factual. In many older African American's eyes, not much has changed since they were younger. Remember, they actually experienced racism first hand.

Do I think that America is a place full of absolute racists? I don't know. Statistically speaking, it could be. According to FBI Crime Statistics, Whites have the most arrests, but minorities are the most convicted. SAT's basically determine whether your life is going to suck or not. How can we have standardized testing when there is no standardized teaching? A student from Watts and a student from the OC are going to have two entirely different education experiences.

the reality is, in the mind of many minorities, not much HAS changed. Who better to change the state of minorities than a minority himself? We've had centuries of out of touch presidents, and people are tired.

I don't agree with many of Obama's statements, and I probably won't vote for him, but based on this issue, I'd say his pastor was pretty correct, and Obama knows that too.

 

Rev. Wright was right for using the N-word, calling the USA the USKKK of A, and G.D. America??? He's a warped old man that spreads misinformation and hate.

It was OK for Obama to lie?

 

Wright is Black. Black people use the N-word all the time. Don't girls call each other B****es? Don't Gays call each other f**s? Lots of groups references themselves in ways that if a person NOT from their group referenced them, would cause a problem.

Non issue right there.

USKKK?

Like I said before, there are a lot of screwed up things that at least "seem" racially motivated. It's not unrealistic, but it is sensationalistic.

GD America? Lots of Christians believe that God has/is punishing America. If you don't believe in God, then that's your preference, but there are many examples in the Bible where God punished countries for being overtly sinful, and we have become a nation where being Christian is seen as a "negative" thing as of recent years. Again, not something very out of the ordinary. If you believe in God, you probably agree. If you don't, why are you bringing this up anyway?

Is the pastor a man of hate? I don't think so. My dad believes some of the same things. But then again, I would too if I had witnessed my relatives being beaten, burned, hosed, jailed, and killed simply because they were a different color.

Was it ok for Obama to lie? I don't know, I don't care. I'm not an Obama supporter.

I just think all the flack about his former pastor is silly and uncalled for.