There is no such thing as an atheist, it's absurd to say otherwise...

 

Yeah, they're like pink zebra unicorns...

 

I'm not joking, there is no such thing as an atheist...

The declaration "There is no God" is an absolute statement. For an absolute statement to be true, I must have absolute knowledge.

Here is another absolute statement: "There is no gold in China."

What do I need to have for that statement to be true?

Only with Absolute knowledge of China can I make this statement for certainty.

I must know that there is no gold in China, I must know every the fillings of every china-mans teeth, , I must know every piece of jewelry, every rock and sediment in the ground, or the statement is incorrect. To say "There is no God," and to be correct in the statement, I must be omniscient (all knowing).

My point is, of course, to make the absolute statement "There is no God." I must have absolute knowledge that there isn't one.

Let's say that you know a whopping 1% of EVERYTHING there is to know in the univrese...Is it possible, that in the knowledge you haven't yet come across, there is ample evidence to prove that God does indeed exist?

Unless you know EVERYTHING there is to know about EVERYTHING, If you are reasonable, you will have to admit that, with the limited knowledge of eveyrthing that you have at the present, you BELIEVE there is no God, but you don't KNOW for sure...you're an agnostic, not an atheist.

I remember this all from a funny sermon I heard about 10 years ago, so if any of it sounds familiar, thats probably why. :-)

 

So then there is no christianity and no god as well by your own logic. Der.

 

The way you and your preacher define an atheist is not how normal people define an atheist. An atheist simply holds the belief that there is no God. You cannot, under any circumstance, proove a negative for the reasons you state above. However, atheists are waiting for a positive proof of the existence to alter their beliefs. Therefore, there are atheists, and they are all over the place.

 

Well not really it seems more to say that although Atheists says there cannot be a God he is saying there is a possibility that there could be a God since we don't know everything. so der back.

 

But the problem with saying that is according to christianity you can't just think there is a "possibility" there is a god you have to KNOW there is a god. Der?

 

touché

 

And you der me?

One can prove that there is Christianity just by going to a church, or looking in a phone book for CHRISTIAN Churches.

Regarding there being NO God? How do you figure? I don't KNOW God exists, based on a physical proof, but i have FAITH...that's the difference. While there may not be physical PROOF i can hand you and show you, I've got faith that he does. God is the builder, the earth is the building..... you're like a person who loks at a building and wonders if there is a builder, the EARTH is proof of Gods existence, creation is proof.

derr

 

Der.

 

Not when there are other realisitic explainations. Then there's the matter of exactly which God created the Earth (if you believe in creation). Was it he Christian God? The Hindu God? The Islamic God? Flying Speghetti Monster? Or are they all the same God with different interpretations of His word?

 

Haha... you guys are awesome.

The reason I would look at a building and assume a "builder" is largely due to the already existing materials transforming to what is before me. Your "builder" argument assumes already existing materials which is theists number one argument when it comes to the big bang/evolution... DER!

 

Well since you took it here... Are there any creationists around who have studied up enough on ID for me to start a thread abot whether or not it is science?

 

ID?

 

The answer appears to be "no".

 

Intelligent Design. It is pretty close to your "building" argument. Basically it is non-secular scientists saying that since certain things such as flagellum of E. coli are so complex and cannot operate without every one of it's parts then there must be a designer.

Yeah... so the answer is no.

 

Oh sure, if you want I suppose we can discuss that....i used to study creationism alot more, it's been a few years so I may be a bit rusty, but I know what I believe and why...

 

Yeah... but it is different from creationism because it is supposed to be based in science. It isn't though.

 

there is no such thing as a god...

The declaration "There is a God" is an absolute statement. For an absolute statement to be true, I must have absolute knowledge.

What do I need to have for that statement to be true?

Only with Absolute knowledge of God can I make this statement for certainty.

I must know that there is a God in the Universe, I must know every inch of the universe, I must have seen god with my own eyes or the statement is incorrect. To say "There is a God," and to be correct in the statement, I must be omniscient (all knowing).

My point is, of course, to make the absolute statement "There is a God." I must have absolute knowledge that there is one.

Let's say that you know a whopping 1% of EVERYTHING there is to know in the universe...Is it possible, that in the knowledge you haven't yet come across, there is ample evidence to prove that God does not exist?

Unless you know EVERYTHING there is to know about EVERYTHING, If you are reasonable, you will have to admit that, with the limited knowledge of everything that you have at the present, you BELIEVE there is God, but you don't KNOW for sure...you're guessing, and taking your ideas from a book that has many falseities in it.

I remember this all from a funny message I read about 10 minutes ago, so if any of it sounds familiar, thats probably why. :-)

 

Actually, I saw Ray Comfort give that sermon about 10 years ago at my old church in corona, he's the guy who wrote it, i memorized most of it and used it in a speach class (with his permission) a few years later.... i've recited it in person as well,