You and I both know that it's not .01%. It's much, much higher than that. Not the majority, I never said that... but it's there, and it's very visible.

I'm sorry, though, if you took it that way. I think we all mean to express our collective hatred towards "fundamentalists" in general rather than any one religion, and I didn't really convey that well.

 

See we are coming together instead of fighting... it is through understanding and positive communication that things get done... Now if only this could be accomplished in our political system... that would be great...

But it goes to show that if people are welling to spend hundreds of millions of dollars for a job that only pays around $400k something is def wrong...

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpGH02DtIws

 

they don't do it for the benjamins, they do it for the women

...but since you brought that up...they make a LOT more than that once out of office.

From what I understand, Bill Clinton gets about $100k for 1 Hour appearance at a conference.

 

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I'd like to know who said that, and give them a hearty handshake. Also, I'm sick of this "hockey mom" BS. We elected George W Bush because he was "different from all the other politicians", he was "just a guy who you could sit down and have a beer with," and look what that got us.

 

Here's my problem with the whole 'hockey mom' thing.
She's the WORST mom ever! She's so career oriented that she doesn't teach her daughter to not get knocked up, and you think she'd be more attentive to her infant with Down's Syndrome. Are you kidding me? She neglects her kids more than she takes care of them.

At this point, the McCain campaign is in serious trouble. It'll be interesting to see what happens at the debate.

Karl Rove said she fumbled the interview with Couric because she was 'over prepared'. He said she is far better when she's 'just speaking off the top of her head' He then sited the two speeches she gave as references to support his argument.

That's great and all except in those instances SHE WAS READING A TELEPROMPTER! In fact, it's quite likely that she didn't write a single word of either of those speeches either.

She really is a trainwreck unfolding. If any GOP supporter ISN'T terrified at the thought of this woman running the country, I wanna eat what you're having for breakfast.

 

LOL so why is kept hidden while they urgently train her for the debate...

 

 

^^HAahahahhahaha

 

This is all pretty tragic. Either Obama wins, lives a long life, and screws everything up, or McCain wins, keels over, and Palin screws everything up.

Haven't forgot you Bernie Mac. You're getting at least one write in vote for president. I'll take a dead guy over a bunch of losers any day.

 

Carbon,

how is McCain = Win Vista?

McCain is so out of touch with technology it should really be

McCain = Caveman carving on stone

 

I didn't make it, so I have no clue. Maybe McCain = Vista because Vista is terrible and it's just trying to be like OS X.

Obama was dead on, don't know where they were going with Biden either, and McCain should be been a broken C64.

 

cannot wait for the trainwreck debate tonight

 

I love how everybody is bashing Palin for her lack of experience. How long has Obama been in office? Obama is great when reading off a teleprompter, but get him in front of a live audience and he sounds like GDubyaB. I want a redo of the primarys to give us some GOOD candidates to choose from. I don't like any of them including the Libritarian candidate. I more worried about the congressional races myself...you know, the people that actually make the laws.

 

I'm pumped for tonight.

I wonder if she boned up on her knowledge of supreme court cases... other than Roe v Wade.

 

Oh man, that interview was awesome. She has quite a collection going on Youtube.
Biden is probably gonna overreact at everything she says, can't blame him.

 

Do a little reading. At this point...NO ONE is bashing her for lack of experience. That's a rather pedestrian argument. There is so much more substantial to use in arguing against her.

- pushing religion in schools
- abuse of power...investigation ongoing
- the 'bridge to nowhere'
- no abortion, even in the case of rape and incest
- never taking a stance on anything except oil drilling
- exaggerating her role in foreign affairs and the reserves unit from her state
- never having to balance a real budget...because you see.. Alaska has no income tax. They get federal support regardless of tax revenue shortfall. Nice right? So she would be ill equipped to handle the mess of juggling a budget after inheriting, say...a $700 Billion bailout plan.
- oh and the inability to string a single coherent sentence together?



Get informed.

 

I think you need to chill yourself out a little bit the bucko. Did I say I supported Palin? I merely staed that a lot of people attack her based on her lack of experience. But for the sake of argument, I will take the opposite stance from you, because I have an open mind and am a true independent voter and thinker (read not a brainwashed democrat or republican).

- pushing religion in schools The contitution says separation of church and state not separation of church FROM state. Common sense tells me that the founding fathers of our country were sick of England constantly having wars based on religion. They wanted the new country they were forming to not have an official stance on religion.
- abuse of power...investigation ongoing If you had the power....what would you do???
- the 'bridge to nowhere' I think that falls under a congressional problem, not a governer problem.
-- no abortion, even in the case of rape and incest No argument from me here. I personally am against abortion except in cases of rape or insest. I however think that is a right for someone to choose for themselves and is none of the goverments business.
- never taking a stance on anything except oil drilling sounds like lack of experience to me
- exaggerating her role in foreign affairs and the reserves unit from her state show me a politcian that doesn't over exaggerate to advance him/herself and also, more inexperience
- never having to balance a real budget...because you see.. Alaska has no income tax. They get federal support regardless of tax revenue shortfall. Nice right? So she would be ill equipped to handle the mess of juggling a budget after inheriting, say...a $700 Billion bailout plan. Last time I checked, congress sets the budget, and the president signs it...not the other way around.
- oh and the inability to string a single coherent sentence together? Ever watched Obama speak live without a prompter. I have.

-Get informed. Get educated. You apparantly have in your mind that the vice president makes the budget and governers write bills that allow pork barrel spending.

 

Came across a new nickname for Palin today, someone called her "Bible Spice".

On a serious note, jetlounge left out:
- a lack of knowledge of supreme court rulings (a little important if you'll be picking a supreme court judge)
- inability to name a single news source, how does she stay informed of world events?

Eerie similarity to the current VP, complete with her own scandal
- refusal to let her staff answer supenas regarding ethical behaivor
- cloistered from the media
- hunts (from a helicopter, very sportsmanlike, what happened to the fair chase ethic?)
- ANWAR drilling advocate
- large money contract
- uses Bush speechwriters

I'm not the happiest with Obama, but with McCain calling himself a 72-year old maverick looking to change Washington, I'm out of other options. I registered Republican to try to minimize the "religous right" influence in the party, and McCain goes and picks someone who honestly believes the world was created in 6 days, and everything is as it always was and always will be. She advocates teaching "intelligent design" in schools regardless of the fact that EVERY SINGLE scientific organization rejects it as a valid theory. The children of the US are alreadly lagging bad enough, if it weren't for military spending we wouldn't even have any scientific breakthroughs anymore. The last thing we need is kids not having to think, being able to answer all the questions with "God did it".

McCain has become an agent of intolerance, and it is a sad thing indeed.

 

Ugh, I made this point in the last political thread we had, but...
Four years. And in that four years, he's been on more Senate Committees than most Senators with twice his experience (including Foreign Relations, Homeland Security, and Government Affairs). He's also either sponsored or written some of the more important governmental oversight bills passed in this decade. Aside from that, he got his JD with honors from Harvard Law and taught constitutional law in Chicago for twelve years.

Palin's been governor of a state with more bison than people.

Really? This sounds like you're just regurgitating it from somewhere/someone else, unless you have some examples of him taking trips to failtown when he's not scripted. I've personally seen him speak without prompt two years ago (before he had a campaign) in Kansas City, and his performance easily refutes that claim.

Wait, what? How is redoing the primaries going to help, if you don't like any of the candidates? It's just going to pick someone you still don't like.

Yeah, well, with that whole "checks and balances" system we sometimes have here, the executive branch does occasionally do stuff, and comes under vote, too.

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I'm going to love tonight. The format is perfect, and they have the same moderator that was in the 2004 debates, which is awesome. Biden isn't going to be able to go on tangents and ramble like he loves to do, and Palin is going to have to actually expand on anything she says, which she apparently hates to do.

I want her to say "I'll find some and I'll get back to you" tonight. Nothing would make me happier.