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Old Jun 12, 2009 | 06:04 PM
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You honestly think the soul is gonna have ANY resale value? It's a KIA? The Cube is a FAIL of a car since it's name implies boxyness and the whole interior is based on roundess. Nissan=design fail and Kia=resale fail.

P.S. I 'm an SE-R freak so you can't say I'm hatin on the Nissan brand.
umm well not like gen XB's resale are so great either at present...and I don't believe the new XB or XD will have great resale as they are selling so hot...btw the dealer local to me just sold its last XB rs 6.0 finally and if that isn't telling what is....they used to sell pre-delivery..BTW CUbe pre-dates bB..and the Soul it remains to be seen...there was a time when Toyota was considered crap here
Nothing has great resale right now as dealers and people are offloading everything they have because the market and econ are so poor. I know all about how they are selling as I work for a dealer(not a car salesman). They will still have better resale then a Kia because they are Toyotas.

Kia's will never have a good resale value. Look at Hyundai. They've got a GREAT lineup and the resale value of thier line has never been that great. Kia's got lower quality and it will be a long time before they come close to huyndai's customer service and quality of product. The resale will be rock bottom.

Please don't assume I don't know that the Cube was out before the bB. I was saying that long before the xB ever made it to our shores, but that was in Japan and has ABSOLUTLY NOTHING to do with this conversation. I don't even know why you would bring that up..............? It also has nothing to do with the fact that the Current US market cube looks like a car from a DR Seuss book. Cube=square, not round.

Toyota was considered crap here in the late 1950's and early 60's with the Toyopet crown because it was underpowered and couldn't maintain hwy speeds without overheating because Japan didn't properly understand the United states hwy system and it's extremely long distances. Thing's were a lot different then. The world was not anywhere near being as global of an economy as it is now.
AMEN!! Thank you, brother. I've been reading all these posts and everyone is crapping on Scion and their RS release. If you don't like the brand anymore, get a different car. If you feel disappointed with their lineup, get a different car. SIMPLE as that. If you want rims, body kit, a wing, intake, etc. go buy it! People are expecting way too much for an extra $1000-1500 dollars.
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Where is the originality in these new release series models? I have some puke green paint and a touch screen navi!
Old Jun 12, 2009 | 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by ExcelRevs
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You honestly think the soul is gonna have ANY resale value? It's a KIA? The Cube is a FAIL of a car since it's name implies boxyness and the whole interior is based on roundess. Nissan=design fail and Kia=resale fail.

P.S. I 'm an SE-R freak so you can't say I'm hatin on the Nissan brand.
umm well not like gen XB's resale are so great either at present...and I don't believe the new XB or XD will have great resale as they are selling so hot...btw the dealer local to me just sold its last XB rs 6.0 finally and if that isn't telling what is....they used to sell pre-delivery..BTW CUbe pre-dates bB..and the Soul it remains to be seen...there was a time when Toyota was considered crap here
Nothing has great resale right now as dealers and people are offloading everything they have because the market and econ are so poor. I know all about how they are selling as I work for a dealer(not a car salesman). They will still have better resale then a Kia because they are Toyotas.

Kia's will never have a good resale value. Look at Hyundai. They've got a GREAT lineup and the resale value of thier line has never been that great. Kia's got lower quality and it will be a long time before they come close to huyndai's customer service and quality of product. The resale will be rock bottom.

Please don't assume I don't know that the Cube was out before the bB. I was saying that long before the xB ever made it to our shores, but that was in Japan and has ABSOLUTLY NOTHING to do with this conversation. I don't even know why you would bring that up..............? It also has nothing to do with the fact that the Current US market cube looks like a car from a DR Seuss book. Cube=square, not round.

Toyota was considered crap here in the late 1950's and early 60's with the Toyopet crown because it was underpowered and couldn't maintain hwy speeds without overheating because Japan didn't properly understand the United states hwy system and it's extremely long distances. Thing's were a lot different then. The world was not anywhere near being as global of an economy as it is now.
AMEN!! Thank you, brother. I've been reading all these posts and everyone is crapping on Scion and their RS release. If you don't like the brand anymore, get a different car. If you feel disappointed with their lineup, get a different car. SIMPLE as that. If you want rims, body kit, a wing, intake, etc. go buy it! People are expecting way too much for an extra $1000-1500 dollars.
Thank you for your expertise.. BTW was here before you and will be here after you....
Putting that aside the brand was built on listening to consumers and building cars and options that they wanted. Casein point was the XB2 and the Miami trip where that and XD was revealed....a dn it more than $1500 and it is a terrible value...but hey lets see if they sell them...I am betting they're going to struggle to sell them
Old Jun 12, 2009 | 08:44 PM
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What does seniority have to do with my opinion? Forums are built around $0.02 and information. If you won't purchase a Scion, I'm sure another person will. It's not a big deal. If Scion as a brand struggles, they'll re-invent the formula, I don't see a bailout coming because people don't like the latest RS.
Old Jun 12, 2009 | 09:17 PM
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well the goal here is to state opinions that hopefully will transcend so I can buy another Scion
Old Jun 12, 2009 | 09:49 PM
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I like that color. Too bad they don't sell / offer superchargers anymore...that would have made this a wasabi pocket rocket.
Old Jun 13, 2009 | 12:27 AM
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aw man, the HU looks like cheap compared to the cool one the RS6 xB got.
they got the same radio. so the xB has a cheap radio too. peeps hate the value and they want big bang for the buck. go buy the Soul then. it has all the things you guys want. light up speakers and and cheap price is where it's at right? i sometimes think Scion brought this mentality of cheapness on itself. why does toyota have a hard time selling it's TRD suff? why do the have a hard time sellin their offered NAV HU?. why do they have a hard time selling the (when they did it) subwoofer upgrades? so they took alot of that away and now the world is ending cuz it too is crap. I like my xD and my xB1 and my tC. I WOULD like my xD to have the Ist bumpers. they look better and flow with the lines better. so maybe some day.
Old Jun 13, 2009 | 01:56 AM
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bout time they did the frog green color

Old Jun 13, 2009 | 02:02 AM
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Originally Posted by CL65Pilot
I'm lovin the interior of the RS2.... I dunno, maybe it's one of those things that'll grow on me the more I see it. I haven't seen one in person, so not sure how it will face up in person with that paint. Might be alright IMO.
The interior is the same as the regular xD's just with silver in the fabric.


Please. This is a sorry excuse for an RS for ANY of the Scion models. I thought the xB one was horrible, but the xD takes the freakin cake. The color looks alright with those better pictures but... no thanks. I'd sooner get an RS1 than this one.
Old Jun 13, 2009 | 02:47 AM
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...I think the stock in my RS1 is RISING....excellent.

WheW! finally read through all this.... and yeah...epic fail.

my 2 cents will echo many others, a very trendy, blah kinda green, no performance upgrades whatsoever, lights i can already get, a radio i can get better, a spoiler i can pay EXTRA for, door sill that are actually cool w/the rs text on em but , no, not for 1500 hundo extra.

i paid 2g's extra for my rs1 goodies, but i got paint no one has, bodykit no one has, springs, spoiler, REAL color matched fabric, STANDOUT color-keyed interior and a TRULY UNIQUE rare-ish car.

LOL I feel bad for the first guy/gal who shows up on the boards with one. We're all raggin on it...BUT, i think we have some sound reasons for it NOT to be considered one of the "great" scion RS releases. "meh" for some of us might be "WoWzers"to others. Get what works for you i guess.
Old Jun 13, 2009 | 05:40 AM
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they got the same radio. so the xB has a cheap radio too. peeps hate the value and they want big bang for the buck. go buy the Soul then. it has all the things you guys want. light up speakers and and cheap price is where it's at right? i sometimes think Scion brought this mentality of cheapness on itself. why does toyota have a hard time selling it's TRD suff? why do the have a hard time sellin their offered NAV HU?. why do they have a hard time selling the (when they did it) subwoofer upgrades? so they took alot of that away and now the world is ending cuz it too is crap. I like my xD and my xB1 and my tC. I WOULD like my xD to have the Ist bumpers. they look better and flow with the lines better. so maybe some day.
this one looks like it has a different finish to it, makes it look funky. but it could just be the picture
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Looks like Team Koshak lead the field again lol






thats 3 for 3 lol
Old Jun 13, 2009 | 04:43 PM
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those that don;t like it, don;t worry about it. it looks weird and thats what Scion is about. you ain't gonna buy it anyway. so when someone rolls up to a meet in one, you can all tell that person their car is funky and ugly to their face and it's a big fail for the RS series.
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weird is great and so is VALUE
Old Jun 13, 2009 | 11:57 PM
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Im sorry, but the cube is fugly. That back window is an "epic fail".
Old Jun 14, 2009 | 04:32 AM
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What they should do is stop putting out the stupid release series and just offer the paint. I thought Scions were supposed to be "hip" and "edgy"... why are they selling them in Camry paint colors?
Old Jun 15, 2009 | 03:39 AM
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Couple of ways of looking at it... They didn't lower or put a DAMD kit on it but the price is lower so you at least have some $$$ to put a set of wheels/tires/airdam kit on it if ya like. Wonder what the head unit would cost to swap out in my RS1.0?
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Just got my latebreaking MMS, local dealer just got their RS2 xD in, gonna check it out later at take some pics
Old Jun 15, 2009 | 01:37 PM
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color seems ok, but it seems like it coulda been a color thats houlda been in there regular line up, its nothing crazy or special to really make it "Release Series" but hey neither was the RS 3.0 tc/4.0 tc and the 5.0 xb
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I have this radio in my RS1 and I love it. Lots of people rag on it, but for the price I got I think it works wonderful.

As for the RS package, I don't think its really that bad. You get a pretty decent navigation unit and some unique paint (whether you like it or not is purely subjective and I'm sure the color looks totally different in person). The door sills and silver accents arent something im going to notice everyday so whatever.

So while some people might think it sucks that it didnt come with a kit, or wheels, or seats, some people might like that.

It keeps costs down, and it still gives you the option of adding ANY kit that you want, and adding whatever wheels you'd like. (etc. for everything else)



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