I'm personally glad they ruled the way they did. The less popular my car is with the 15 year old crowd who are anxiously awaiting the release of Fast and the Furious: Tokyo Drift (Thats the actual name, I could not make that up), and the chance to "tune" (rice) their car, the better. Everyone here knows how a 193 whp v. 197bhp race would turn out in the real world. Magazine drivers live in their own fantasy world; that much is obvious. Take Consumer Report's review of the manual tC. 0-60 in 8.8 sec. I'm sorry, but I think I've performed better than that, and I drive mine up at 7000 ft. Lastly, I highly doubt that any civic driver will achive the head turning factor that we all experienced when the tC was relatively new. Just my two cents.

 

I'm still experiencing the head turning factor, but this is probably because I live in the midwest. Here, mid westerners pronounce Missouri, Missourah

 

Mags usually go to car companies and say send me this car I want to do a test. They cant usually pick and choose options they want other than a SC probably. Car and Driver had a 28k tC for a long term test car.

I dont care that the Si might be a little faster and handle better. I dont race my car and you can only go so fast between red lights and in traffic. Ill take the tCs torque over having to rev it to 6k to get any power out of it.

 

ok the Si handles better, but the tC SHOULD accelerate much faster than the Si.

I guess I could see why the Si should win

6 speed, Better handeling, lightweight, 8k RPM.

Maybe its not as fast in the straight line, but it doesnt lose so much that its a deciding factor.

I dont care, the tC is much more drivable and respected on the road.

 

Cant find the magazine anywhere

 

We've been debating this issue in this thread: https://www.scionlife.com/forums/vie...792&highlight=

 

yup, i would never drive a honda either.

 

You obviously haven't driven an Si. You'd have to be shorter than 3 feet for the steering wheel to block the speedo. Now it could feasibly block the tach, but it's probably pretty difficult to be in a comfortable natural driving position and do that. The tach is in the position of a normal gauge cluster, while the speedometer is far enough back, that the driver will always be looking well OVER the wheel to see it.

I thought the '06 Civic EX was a great drive. Incredibly smooth and refined. Just wish they had an Si for me to test.

 

Regardless of what the mag states; we're enjoying my wife's TC w/ the sc. She's had plenty of Hondas in the past; the TC wasn't even on her radar when looking for a new ride until the bigger spoiler came out ( yes, appearance means something here ). After I got her to drive it, sale was done, and that was before we knew the sc was coming out. Sure it can be fun ripping thru the gears at 8k, but in the real world we drive in; that just ain't gonna happen often. Pulling off the line in this car with it's torque brings back memories of the v-8 days, and that puts a smile on this old man's face. We have no regrets buying this over the other cars she was considering ( and after seeing the new SI we're not missing anything--our thoughts anyways ). We thought there was something a bit classy about the TC's appearance, and with what all of you out there are doing with your TC's there's plenty of fun to be added in the future.

 

Because we all know that Hondas are so much different from Toyotas

 

...the civic weights pretty much the same as the tC... so "light weight" would not be one of its advantages

 

i didnt say that it was an advantage, i was just saying that it is lightweight. i think we can all agree that the Si is a lightweight vehicle.

 

Only real difference is the SI has a LSD, and 6 speed vs 5...

LSD isn't gonna make up for 40 lb-ft of torque, but the difference in gearing will hurt a bit.

 

I would like to know why specifically is wasn't even close.

I hope speed isn't a factor.

 

I have the article and I'm still not sure why that headline is in it?????

I think they mean in their opinion coz they do take into account all the options and work out the price with just the SC in the tC and the nav in the Si. both are around $20k and still they say price is the issue

I like the Si but i love the tC. I just dont like the rear end. In fact I think the sedan has a better back end and looks like a baby tsx sorta (from the back).

But I am glad that ricers do not GET the tC and have something else to put huge spoilers on and paint day glo orange.

 

NISsan MOtorsports = Nismo

HOnda MOtorsports = HOMO

No offense mean't to my ___ scionlifer's

You can call me a BREEDER anytime you want

 

I would consider a lotus elise lightweight, a toyota MR-S lightweight, civic type r, integra type r (JDM DC2) Celica SSII (JDM GTS) all lightweight.... Anything over 2800lbs is no longer 'lightweight' to me unless it comes stock with at astarting point of 250hp.. case in point, Honda S2000.

I think anybody who called the tC a 'porker' when it launched, is a hypocrite for calling the new si 'lightweight' *n.b. this particular comment was not directed at you*

 

to my understanding, i thought the general rule of thumb was that any car under 3000lbs. is lightweight.

 

From what i hear Honda has their hands in a fair bit of Media. Which could have them enough pull in the industry to Scew things in their Favor. SC tC > 06 Si

 

It was a biased comparison, for it to be fair the tC should have had all TRD parts on it instead of all the cosmetic parts. I think they should have used a tC with the Turbonetics kit on it, not fair for the Si, but I don't own a Si!