Thats right, the xA replacement is the Scion xD
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dude i promote for toyota. i work th them on a daily basis.
the xa is fat , and chunky compared to the matrix.
man that ractis is just not right . the xa and xb are brother and sister yet they went and had sex , and made this ugly lovechild , lol
the xa is fat , and chunky compared to the matrix.
man that ractis is just not right . the xa and xb are brother and sister yet they went and had sex , and made this ugly lovechild , lol
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Originally Posted by hotbox05
dude i promote for toyota. i work th them on a daily basis.
the xa is fat , and chunky compared to the matrix.
man that ractis is just not right . the xa and xb are brother and sister yet they went and had sex , and made this ugly lovechild , lol
the xa is fat , and chunky compared to the matrix.
man that ractis is just not right . the xa and xb are brother and sister yet they went and had sex , and made this ugly lovechild , lol
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Just found this article. It kinda reflects what has already been said here...but it may confirm some speculations.
http://wardsautoworld.com/ar/auto_scion_drop_xa/
http://wardsautoworld.com/ar/auto_scion_drop_xa/
As Toyota Motor Corp.'s groundbreaking Scion youth brand edges closer to its fourth birthday, the auto maker is readying new models to keep the marque fresh.
In doing so, Toyota will drop the xA hatchback and boxy xB next spring in favor of two new '08 vehicles. The brand launched sales with the two vehicles in California in June 2003 and will end their production in December.
“The xA and xB will always be very special models for us and have contributed greatly to Scion's success, but we're ready to move into our next product phase,” says Mark Templin, vice president-Scion.
One of the '08 models will be dubbed the xD, a Toyota executive confirms for Ward's. Toyota trademarked the name in March, according to the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office website. It also has trademarks for tD and tE.
Don Esmond, senior vice president-automotive operations, declines to divulge the xD's vehicle type, but tells Ward's, “it won't be an SUV,” in keeping with previous Scion declarations that Gen Y buyers, unlike their parents, don't find SUVs desirable.
Ward's data shows a front- and all-wheel-drive “sport wagon” joining Scion's U.S. lineup next year as an '08 model. It will share the next-generation tC's new platform, dubbed Toyota NCV, which also will underpin the new Toyota Corolla.
However, it is unclear whether the sport wagon is the xD or the other unnamed new model.
In doing so, Toyota will drop the xA hatchback and boxy xB next spring in favor of two new '08 vehicles. The brand launched sales with the two vehicles in California in June 2003 and will end their production in December.
“The xA and xB will always be very special models for us and have contributed greatly to Scion's success, but we're ready to move into our next product phase,” says Mark Templin, vice president-Scion.
One of the '08 models will be dubbed the xD, a Toyota executive confirms for Ward's. Toyota trademarked the name in March, according to the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office website. It also has trademarks for tD and tE.
Don Esmond, senior vice president-automotive operations, declines to divulge the xD's vehicle type, but tells Ward's, “it won't be an SUV,” in keeping with previous Scion declarations that Gen Y buyers, unlike their parents, don't find SUVs desirable.
Ward's data shows a front- and all-wheel-drive “sport wagon” joining Scion's U.S. lineup next year as an '08 model. It will share the next-generation tC's new platform, dubbed Toyota NCV, which also will underpin the new Toyota Corolla.
However, it is unclear whether the sport wagon is the xD or the other unnamed new model.
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Originally Posted by xSTANDxSTRONGx
Hotbox,, have you seen the 2 next to eachother? the xA looks like the Matrix's little sister
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Originally Posted by xSTANDxSTRONGx
the xD will have more of everything, bigger outside, bigger inside, bigger engine, higher HP, same or close to MPG. (They say it's the same.)
There is absolutly no-way that they will release the xD at the current Xa low price of 13.4K. And given the Fit is 13.8K base, being an 06 Xa owner... I have no concerns about resale. Common sense says the base xD is going to have to be 14.4K+
Correct me if I am wrong, but the Xa is the lowest priced Japanese produced automoble currently avail?
So, I don't think you can go wrong (in terms of resale) by owning one if they are going to take it out of production and replace it with a more expensive model. ~imo
(And if the xD has AWD, there is 0% chance it would sell for the same price or get the same milage as the cur Xa,)
Thoughts?
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[quote="89integra"]
The amount of torque needed to make an AWD system work without sacrificing MPG is hard to accomplish with a straight 4cyl. In fact I don't remember ever seeing a vehicle that had done it and gets over 30 mpg. I had to heavily modify my old Subaru WRX (turbo boxer engine design) to get power and MPG over 30 but I had to use 91oct plus octane booster (roughly 93oct equivalent) to stop the ping.
In short AWD systems are HEAVY and need lots of torque to get things moving. MPG killer! But very nice to have if you live up in North Dakota like I do.
Originally Posted by xSTANDxSTRONGx
(And if the xD has AWD, there is 0% chance it would sell for the same price or get the same milage as the cur Xa,)
In short AWD systems are HEAVY and need lots of torque to get things moving. MPG killer! But very nice to have if you live up in North Dakota like I do.
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[quote="toxshox"]
The amount of torque needed to make an AWD system work without sacrificing MPG is hard to accomplish with a straight 4cyl. In fact I don't remember ever seeing a vehicle that had done it and gets over 30 mpg. I had to heavily modify my old Subaru WRX (turbo boxer engine design) to get power and MPG over 30 but I had to use 91oct plus octane booster (roughly 93oct equivalent) to stop the ping.
In short AWD systems are HEAVY and need lots of torque to get things moving. MPG killer! But very nice to have if you live up in North Dakota like I do.
Also, considering how good the FWD works, I don't see a REAL need for it here in the states. It's more of a novelty IMHO.
If AWD is needed buy a Jeep!
Originally Posted by 89integra
Originally Posted by xSTANDxSTRONGx
(And if the xD has AWD, there is 0% chance it would sell for the same price or get the same mileage as the cur Xa,)
In short AWD systems are HEAVY and need lots of torque to get things moving. MPG killer! But very nice to have if you live up in North Dakota like I do.
If AWD is needed buy a Jeep!
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The amount of torque needed to make an AWD system work without sacrificing MPG is hard to accomplish with a straight 4cyl. In fact I don't remember ever seeing a vehicle that had done it and gets over 30 mpg. I had to heavily modify my old Subaru WRX (turbo boxer engine design) to get power and MPG over 30 but I had to use 91oct plus octane booster (roughly 93oct equivalent) to stop the ping.
In short AWD systems are HEAVY and need lots of torque to get things moving. MPG killer! But very nice to have if you live up in North Dakota like I do.
Also, considering how good the FWD works, I don't see a REAL need for it here in the states. It's more of a novelty IMHO.
If AWD is needed buy a Jeep!
I realize this is a month old but I think it may be a bit different for someone who lives in Tennessee. I understand that you do get snow and ice down there occassionally but try living in New England where weather patterns change by the minute. Is it too much to ask for a small AWD hatchback getting better than 30mpg and offering a manual transmission. I have been patiently awaiting news on the xD to replace my '92 Tercel commuter car and have also been doing research on the Suzuki SX4. Subarus are overpriced and quirky and not as small of a vehicle as I would like. A manual trans AWD xD would be an excellent commuter for me. My wife and I would have seriously considered the AWD Matrix when she was looking but alas, no manual transmission.
In my opinion, either the Ractis or the Auris would be great as the xD. Just give me the option to have AWD and a manual transmission. I think AWD will be a part of Scion for '08, but I am skeptical that it will be available with a manual.
Oh yeah, first post here.
Originally Posted by toxshox
Originally Posted by 89integra
Originally Posted by xSTANDxSTRONGx
(And if the xD has AWD, there is 0% chance it would sell for the same price or get the same mileage as the cur Xa,)
In short AWD systems are HEAVY and need lots of torque to get things moving. MPG killer! But very nice to have if you live up in North Dakota like I do.
If AWD is needed buy a Jeep!
In my opinion, either the Ractis or the Auris would be great as the xD. Just give me the option to have AWD and a manual transmission. I think AWD will be a part of Scion for '08, but I am skeptical that it will be available with a manual.
Oh yeah, first post here.
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I know all about snow and ice. I lived in Detroit the first 30 or so years of my life. I've used my xB quite a bit up there in upwards of 8 inches of snow and ice and it worked perfectly fine with the trac control and only FWD.
I'm liking that new Suzuki SX4. It comes with electronic awd or 4 wd. Looks kinda like an oversized xA. It also has some really nice colors.
I'm liking that new Suzuki SX4. It comes with electronic awd or 4 wd. Looks kinda like an oversized xA. It also has some really nice colors.
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Originally Posted by jethro_b
I know all about snow and ice. I lived in Detroit the first 30 or so years of my life. I've used my xB quite a bit up there in upwards of 8 inches of snow and ice and it worked perfectly fine with the trac control and only FWD.
I'm liking that new Suzuki SX4. It comes with electronic awd or 4 wd. Looks kinda like an oversized xA. It also has some really nice colors.
I'm liking that new Suzuki SX4. It comes with electronic awd or 4 wd. Looks kinda like an oversized xA. It also has some really nice colors.