yup, i read alot on HIDPlanet.com in the forums and just went through ALOT of the threads over there before posting anything!!! the s2k's are probally the best projector, but there are many good one. the s2k are hard to work with since there a bit bigger. So far i bought everything off of that site. That Hella/Gen-3 Package is a pretty good deal. You can find all type of projectors on the buy/sell/trade section. You'll mostly see Acura/Honda, BMW, and lexus. Id say stick with Lexus & Acura/Honda projectors. So far ive spent about $500, and i still need shrouds and angel eyes. so that will be another $200. after i get those 2 things i should start on my retro! ive been buying my materials little by little. I know it will pay off at the end and i cant wait. Do some research over there, cause those guys are some HID nuts!!!!