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Old Dec 31, 2006 | 04:49 PM
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Ok so i have searched this, and didnt really find what i was looking for..

some sites that sell the lip kit for the tc says it barely lowers the car at all. I dont really understand how this works, as when you add something to the bottom of your bumper, it would lower it obviously. Can someone confirm or bust this for me? I want to get the lip kit but i also want to get some S techs and if it doesnt lower it a whole lot i will order both. But a lip kit with S techs where i live would be absoluted HELL if the front bumber is real low. Thanks all!
Old Dec 31, 2006 | 04:55 PM
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if you look at the bottom of hte bumper... there's an inch or so below the grille + side vents. If the lip is only an inch tall, it wont drop below where the stock bumper stops.

(if that makes any sense at all)
Old Dec 31, 2006 | 04:57 PM
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^^^^so Neothin, you are saything that it WONT drop it that much?
Old Dec 31, 2006 | 04:58 PM
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depends on the lip. my rs1 lowers a good inch and a half
Old Dec 31, 2006 | 04:58 PM
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Ok, I don't KNOW so maybe I should just not chime in. But I'm guessing that the lip kit covers more of the existing car rather than extending to it.

Maybe I should say it like this. It extends more OUT than down. Just taking a stab there though. Otherwise, if it lowered very much and you lowered it through suspension, you'd be in a world of hurt trying to drive that thing on public roads.

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uhm... even without a lip kit, s-techs will scrape.... so adding a lip kit..... even more scraping...

but yeah... depending on lip kit.. shouldn't be too significant of a drop... but yeah.. s-techs and lip kit... more scraping than usual...

either way... you're gonna have to angle the car to get onto driveways and over speedbumps, dips.. etc...
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which is sometimes a major PITA


imagine... main road into a steep driveway that you have to take at like 5mph with a huge angle. people honking/yelling at you... not fun sometimes
Old Dec 31, 2006 | 05:03 PM
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scraping depends on the driver too
Old Dec 31, 2006 | 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Zander416
Ok, I don't KNOW so maybe I should just not chime in. But I'm guessing that the lip kit covers more of the existing car rather than extending to it.

Maybe I should say it like this. It extends more OUT than down. Just taking a stab there though. Otherwise, if it lowered very much and you lowered it through suspension, you'd be in a world of hurt trying to drive that thing on public roads.

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That sir would be correct...
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wow thanks guys...i was gona 10 minutes and already replies, that makes sense that it would extend out instead of down, i want the lip kit and a drop sooooooo bad but even stock i have to be careful of parking blocks and speed bumbs and such.... maybe the TRD drop would be better for me, but it doesnt really look like it does a whole lot
Old Dec 31, 2006 | 05:19 PM
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I have the TRD springs on my car....They look a hell of a lot better than the stock heigth. In about two-three weeks my brand new lip kit should be here and I'm not worrying about any problems scraping. I was going to go s-techs myself but I decided not because of how low the front sits. With TRD springs you will notice a drop it just will not be anything like what the s-techs do.
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the TRD's still make quite a difference in appearance. a mild drop indeed... but it still looks very good compared to stock.
Old Dec 31, 2006 | 05:24 PM
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i was browsing the forums yesterday and someone had trd drop on there and people were telling him to drop it- I would assume its because it doesnt drop anything like the 2.4 in the front like the stechs

here a thought...anyone seen any adjustable coilovers?im sure it would be a hassle to adjust them but it would be nice to play around with what height i would like before i actually set it up...
Old Dec 31, 2006 | 09:22 PM
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The problem with adjustable coil overs, I have had them on every other car I have ever owned, (well most of them), is unless you plan on putting the car on 4 different scales and weighing it, then adjusting it so that all four corners are equal weight, it is impossible to get it exactly the same height all the way around. Most people do not care about this, but if you are after the performance part of lowering a car, I would recommend staying away from coil overs.

******Side question, how much is the drop from the Teins? I am not completely happy with the TRD drop, I would like the car to be a little lower ... if you saw pictures of my last Prelude you would understand what I am after.

Thanks!
Old Dec 31, 2006 | 09:27 PM
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if your after performance, stay away from coilovers? huh?!

stech's are 2.4" front adn 2.0" rear
Old Dec 31, 2006 | 09:34 PM
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No, I suppose I mis-spoke a little ... Unless you are willing to take the time to put the extra work into the tuning ... springs are simpler and quicker ... There is more to coil overs than just raising and lowering the car. I guess I should have explained a bit further.
Old Dec 31, 2006 | 09:35 PM
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not all... the cheap ones don't have dampening adjustments
Old Dec 31, 2006 | 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Nexis
Most people do not care about this, but if you are after the performance part of lowering a car, I would recommend staying away from coil overs.
that is hands down one of the stupidest comments i have ever seen on this forum ever...HANDS DOWN top 10.. do you have any idea of what your talking about seriously? either you have never had decent pair of good coilovers, dont understand their purpose, or have never combined good coilovers with good shocks or owned a good full coilover system... i hope no one here takes what you just said seriously. the only thing you said that was potentially correct was distributing the weight of the car but if you know how to measure wheel gaps or bumper to floor heights correctly then the weight will be evenly distributed.


to the original thread poster.

1. the stock OEM lip kit does not go BELOW the front bump at its lowest point which is by the wheel well of the car. all it does is change the point of were you could "possibly" run into a scraping problem. SCRAPING ALL DEPENDS ON THE DRIVER AND WHAT SPRINGS U HAVE or how low your car is.. that is it..

if your on stech's which is as low as anyone should be going especially on stock suspension YOU WILL ONLY SCRAPE 1. if you are a horrible driver and dont know how to drive with a car thats lowered. 2. your shocks are blown hence making you sag and be a little lower and in that case you should replace your shocks immediatly to a performance shock that can handle the stress. or upgrade to a GOOD full coilover system.

i have had stechs for over a year now with stock shocks and dont scrape even on steep inclines and parking structures, speed bumps etc.. why? because you need to adjust the way you drive... you need to learn to atack bumps, inclines, declines, and steep roads at an incline and not straight ahead!!..if you do you will most likely scrape..SPEED does have an affect also in scraping..you cannot go very fast at most instances because out stock shocks are ____ty and cannot handle the quick rebounding needed for us to stay level.. hence a jerking foward motion on initial impact which will cause the scrape...

slow and at an angle is how you handle inclines, declines, speed bumps, etc etc.. now unless you know the road and you feel confident going str8 then you can go at things str8 foward.. but if you feel that certain instances the road or bumps are to high.. then go at it sideways..1 wheel at a time.
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i have hotchkis springs and my car scrapes real bad on hills and bumps....i love the stock front lip kit but i am worried i would tear it up
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