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Old Dec 29, 2006 | 06:09 PM
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or you can do that Hyndai job where they had 2 motors. trunk space might go down though
Old Dec 29, 2006 | 06:42 PM
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it would be stupid to use the 2azfe for an awd purpose anyways because the parasitic loss would be huge compaired to just driving 2 wheels... just wait for the nissan gtr to come out and u will have a 2 dr awd coupe haha
Old Dec 30, 2006 | 09:49 PM
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Last time I checked the Rav4 tranny suffers huge losses after you hit 25mph+ using AWD. Will a Rav4 tranny bolt up to the 2AZ? Yea they both use the same motor...but is it practical? No...not really. You wont see any "quicker" jump times off the line assuming thats what you want to convert over for.
Old Dec 31, 2006 | 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by captainlaziness
Bragging rights.
Yes, brag about a stock car that costs $22K. I do not even think I have to explain how ridiculous that is. Let alone who cares about people who brag about their cars. Nice way to no longer be taken seriously.
Old Dec 31, 2006 | 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by pureXtC
it would be stupid to use the 2azfe for an awd purpose anyways because the parasitic loss would be huge compaired to just driving 2 wheels... just wait for the nissan gtr to come out and u will have a 2 dr awd coupe haha
Parasitic loss is bigger but huge? Tell that to the WRX and EVO people. It is not hard to make up the loss and you will be ahead with launching and cornering. I mean, someone with the money to do an AWD conversion will be able to afford, if not already have, a turbo.

Originally Posted by kingofchighs
Last time I checked the Rav4 tranny suffers huge losses after you hit 25mph+ using AWD. Will a Rav4 tranny bolt up to the 2AZ? Yea they both use the same motor...but is it practical? No...not really. You wont see any "quicker" jump times off the line assuming thats what you want to convert over for.
If someone is actually able to make a conversion, it means more people will be able to do it. Eventually, a company will take notice or we will make them notice and produce stronger gears and such. And like I said, someone who has the money to do this will be or plan to be turboed. A 300hp+ will probably take care of that "loss".

As for a quicker jump, your telling me an AWD tC will put up as much smoke and barely jump as a FWD will running 300hp+? I highly doubt anyone would do this to an otherwise stock engine car. I would love to have an AWD tC. That is the only thing it needs to make the car perfect.
Old Dec 31, 2006 | 08:51 PM
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Bmw has the 328xi Coupe. Nice car but not nearly the monster that the 335i is.
Old Dec 31, 2006 | 09:59 PM
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Parasitic loss is bigger but huge? Tell that to the WRX and EVO people.
WRX/STi/STI and Evo get away with it due to the power output of their respective engines and the absolutely disgusting amounts of R&D that went into their drivetrain.

If someone is actually able to make a conversion, it means more people will be able to do it. Eventually, a company will take notice or we will make them notice and produce stronger gears and such. And like I said, someone who has the money to do this will be or plan to be turboed. A 300hp+ will probably take care of that "loss".
Haha. Keep on dreaming. Someone who has the money to do this would've bought a car that already has it. The tC is an awful platform to start on for any kind of racing and anyone that is interested in performance would look elsewhere.
Old Jan 1, 2007 | 07:02 PM
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Haha. Keep on dreaming. Someone who has the money to do this would've bought a car that already has it. The tC is an awful platform to start on for any kind of racing and anyone that is interested in performance would look elsewhere.
QFT

too heavy, too cheap, lots more options out there.

i like my car, but c'mon it's not a real race car, unless u plan to drop some serious dough in it.
Old Jan 2, 2007 | 04:35 AM
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Originally Posted by mattvs
Haha. Keep on dreaming. Someone who has the money to do this would've bought a car that already has it. The tC is an awful platform to start on for any kind of racing and anyone that is interested in performance would look elsewhere.
Yep, all the cars at drag events are Ferraris and Lamborghinis because they are the platform to use. And man, all those people at SEMA and other car shows are stupid for not having the right cars.

In fact, we need to spread the word, everyone should keep their cars stock unless it costs more than $100,000 because, as you say, modifying a car that is not pure awesome is useless.

Please, there are drag tCs doing sub 10 seconds. There are autocrossers who obviously run well enough to keep doing it. It is not a perfect car, but there is no perfect car. Thousands of people have Ferraris and Lambos, hundreds of thousands have Mustangs and Camaros. There would be only one or, if that person is nice enough to share details, a handful of AWD tCs.

I keep seeing this, for a website for this community is about modification. There are a lot of people who dis the car and think it cannot be made better. I like my car and there are many people who think it is worthy. Let people do what they want and help them, not tell them to get different cars.
Old Jan 2, 2007 | 05:51 AM
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There would be only one or, if that person is nice enough to share details, a handful of AWD tCs.
And they would all be slower than average high-maintenance wastes of money. Unless you're backed by Toyota, you would never come up with the money needed to make it competitive.

Please, there are drag tCs doing sub 10 seconds.
No, there are race cars doing sub 10 seconds that have a body molded into the shape of a tC. Hell, one of them is RWD and uses a 2JZ.

I keep seeing this, for a website for this community is about modification.
Yea, modification is one thing, but there's a line between 'nifty mod' and "psychotic waste of money"
Old Jan 2, 2007 | 06:05 AM
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I appreciate cynicism when it comes to my main mode of transportation but for some people, I guess it's not.

That line varies from person to person so it's really a moot point to argue where that line is. Different people with different values will allow different amounts of money to be considered "wisely spent."

I would never go too far into making my tC a speed demon because in my opinion, it's a lost cause from the start. But it's not too hard to believe that there exists out there a person who wants none other than a 350 whp tC, not a 350 whp 350Z or 325 or Civic or Mustang or anything else, but specifically, a tC.

Why? It's up to the person. I would prefer to have five one dollar bills than to have a five dollar bill. It's still five bucks but that's just me. If you like your five dollar bill, no matter how stupid I think that is, I really have no right to try to impose my values on you.

So really, is it worthwhile to argue when to stop modding and when to upgrade?
Old Jan 2, 2007 | 06:33 AM
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Originally Posted by kungpaosamuraiii
I appreciate cynicism when it comes to my main mode of transportation but for some people, I guess it's not.

That line varies from person to person so it's really a moot point to argue where that line is. Different people with different values will allow different amounts of money to be considered "wisely spent."

I would never go too far into making my tC a speed demon because in my opinion, it's a lost cause from the start. But it's not too hard to believe that there exists out there a person who wants none other than a 350 whp tC, not a 350 whp 350Z or 325 or Civic or Mustang or anything else, but specifically, a tC.

Why? It's up to the person. I would prefer to have five one dollar bills than to have a five dollar bill. It's still five bucks but that's just me. If you like your five dollar bill, no matter how stupid I think that is, I really have no right to try to impose my values on you.

So really, is it worthwhile to argue when to stop modding and when to upgrade?
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