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Old Apr 18, 2007 | 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by TCpete
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All you guys laughing at him saying its impossible, just silly.

Anything is possible with cold hard cash...

spend about 100k on ur tC motor and ull be runnin 400 whp N/A. Just have to make all custom lightweight high strength everything.
your an idiot.. not matter how much money you spend on the 2az..400 NA is impossible(even with NOS).. END YOURSELF ...quickly!
I am an idiot? Believe whatever you want to my sadly mistaken friend..

Toyota F1 Team can make a N/A V10 with over 900

Not a good enough example?

HONDA makes the RA001E, V10 that is a 3 LITRE ENGINE, N/A, with 795 BHP.

And you say a Toyota 2.5 litre could not make 400?

And dont come at me with that "OmfG tHe v!0 mAkeS iT pWn!!!" a 3 liter is a 3 liter, with one billion pistons, or one piston. Mazda made a 1.8 Litre v6 and it made a whopping 130 Engine HP. Toyota's 1.8 Litre makes 164 Engine HP (Corolla). Extra pistons don't matter much.

You seriously need to consider MONEY into this equation like I said earlier. That and get off your "pedestool of knowledge" you think you are on.
Old Apr 18, 2007 | 07:21 PM
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we are talking about a 2az-fe engine. aka... a tc engine. if horizon motorsports could get the tc to 400whp, dont you think they would?
Old Apr 18, 2007 | 07:26 PM
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Does horizon motorsports have a 100k engine spending budget, per engine, with 2 or 3 backups, for a 17 hour season?

No.

Do Formula 1 teams have that? Yes
Old Apr 18, 2007 | 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Sly_dawg19
Originally Posted by TCpete
Originally Posted by Sly_dawg19
All you guys laughing at him saying its impossible, just silly.

Anything is possible with cold hard cash...

spend about 100k on ur tC motor and ull be runnin 400 whp N/A. Just have to make all custom lightweight high strength everything.
your an idiot.. not matter how much money you spend on the 2az..400 NA is impossible(even with NOS).. END YOURSELF ...quickly!
I am an idiot? Believe whatever you want to my sadly mistaken friend..

Toyota F1 Team can make a N/A V10 with over 900

Not a good enough example?

HONDA makes the RA001E, V10 that is a 3 LITRE ENGINE, N/A, with 795 BHP.

And you say a Toyota 2.5 litre could not make 400?

And dont come at me with that "OmfG tHe v!0 mAkeS iT pWn!!!" a 3 liter is a 3 liter, with one billion pistons, or one piston. Mazda made a 1.8 Litre v6 and it made a whopping 130 Engine HP. Toyota's 1.8 Litre makes 164 Engine HP (Corolla). Extra pistons don't matter much.

You seriously need to consider MONEY into this equation like I said earlier. That and get off your "pedestool of knowledge" you think you are on.
hey captain obvious.. last time we check.. this was a debate on the 2azfe 2.4 L not the RA001E, F1motor, or other motor you mentioned how the hell are you going to compare a 4 cylinder for a v6,v8,v10 ....lol

i rest my case and ill stay up on my pedastal chillin watching down on your weak self.. give me a break dude lol..the fact that you say extra pistons dont matter much already shows me were your level is at lol.. NEXT!!
Old Apr 18, 2007 | 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Sly_dawg19
Originally Posted by TCpete
Originally Posted by Sly_dawg19
All you guys laughing at him saying its impossible, just silly.

Anything is possible with cold hard cash...

spend about 100k on ur tC motor and ull be runnin 400 whp N/A. Just have to make all custom lightweight high strength everything.
your an idiot.. not matter how much money you spend on the 2az..400 NA is impossible(even with NOS).. END YOURSELF ...quickly!
I am an idiot? Believe whatever you want to my sadly mistaken friend..

Toyota F1 Team can make a N/A V10 with over 900

Not a good enough example?

HONDA makes the RA001E, V10 that is a 3 LITRE ENGINE, N/A, with 795 BHP.

And you say a Toyota 2.5 litre could not make 400?

And dont come at me with that "OmfG tHe v!0 mAkeS iT pWn!!!" a 3 liter is a 3 liter, with one billion pistons, or one piston. Mazda made a 1.8 Litre v6 and it made a whopping 130 Engine HP. Toyota's 1.8 Litre makes 164 Engine HP (Corolla). Extra pistons don't matter much.

You seriously need to consider MONEY into this equation like I said earlier. That and get off your "pedestool of knowledge" you think you are on.
sorry bro, but you are just wrong. and everyone who said you won't make 400 whp [na] on the tc's motor are absolutely correct.

# of pistons absolutely does matter. more moving parts=more friction/heat=more stress on motor=decreased durability.

also, displacement is not the be-all/end-all factor in making power.

and i don't even know why u are comparing raced prepped V8s and V10s to a i4 toyota camry motor.

no one is saying you couldn't take the 2az BLOCK, put 100k in it and make 400whp....they're just saying the YOU won't/can't. set more realistic goals for yourself i think is the message.

and if you don't know what you're talking about/doing, then drop it.
Old Apr 18, 2007 | 07:42 PM
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You can sit up there and think you are smart and end all knowledge of engines and what they can produce with near unlimited money all day long.

This thread is dead to me now.
Old Apr 18, 2007 | 07:44 PM
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Default Re: Project 400WHP. Suggestions how to do it?!

Originally Posted by BaiD
...it needs to show street legal on emission tests.


Let's say, just for the sake of discussion, that 400whp is possible NA. Yet you want it to pass a smog test too? Care to share whatever it is you're smoking?
Old Apr 18, 2007 | 08:01 PM
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even if you had unlimited $$$, every engine has a mechanically limited output...determined by the displacement, bore and stroke, compression ratio, weight of the internals, friction, heat.

and no, a 1 cylinder 2L engine is not the same as or comparable to a 2L V6.
Old Apr 18, 2007 | 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Sly_dawg19
You can sit up there and think you are smart and end all knowledge of engines and what they can produce with near unlimited money all day long.

This thread is dead to me now.
awwww poor baby got owned twice in a row... now he gonna cry an not participate lol...

yo shine up the bottom of my pedastal ....and make sure it glows like ****!
Old Apr 18, 2007 | 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Sly_dawg19
a 3 liter is a 3 liter,
Yeah, I am sure we are right on par with a 2.3L cosworth as well huh?


I know.. I will just sit back and laugh... and not just at that statement.. this whole thread is hilarious
Old Apr 18, 2007 | 09:56 PM
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x2 ^ lol..
Old Apr 18, 2007 | 10:07 PM
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this is where i go...

*SMACK*

keep dreaming.. in your dreams.
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