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Old Sep 7, 2005 | 05:11 PM
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i talked to my parts manager at my scion dealer when i went ot go pick up touch up paint he said trd is focusing on racing not us much anymore. always expect a trd part to be released a year abnd a half form the original release date so when was the original release date for the supercharger.
Old Sep 7, 2005 | 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by engifineer
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Hey, don’t feel so bad we;
1 already know its Vortech based
2 already have more then one photo and prototype
3 already know it’s going to add somewhere around 50 to 57 WHP
4 already know aftermarket industry is going to jump on every little stone
5 already know TRD is going to have to sell this thing
And last of all its already integrated in tC marketing prop…they cant back out.
Considering every rep I have talked with, including people who have been to the plant in Japan quote 40 BHP.... where did you get 50 -57 WHP????
everybody has a different rumor this one came from vortech
Old Sep 7, 2005 | 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by TRDaddiction
To all you guyz and gals that feel attached to the tC ask yourself three major questions …. Are things any worse then before?…..am I still getting poked by TRD and are they still playing mind games?…Now can I actually pass the punk in the hopped-up Dodge Neon? My answers are NO..NO..YES
Firstly, a lot of people bought a tC for the s/c because of the warranty and the considerable gain in power and the "surprisingly affordable"ness. So things started out pretty badly since some people wanted a dealer aquired little monster of a car. It is relative, but people wanted to be able to outdo an RSX-S straight from the dealer but thusfar we're having trouble staying ahead of an RSX base. Things are no worse than before but they are no better and no better than before means pretty bad compared to consumer expectations.

We're still getting poked by TRD if we ever were. These rumors have to come from somewhere and most of them that last will have come from a TRD employee that doesn't really know. And rumors abound.

Sure, a tC can pass a hopped up neon but we want to hang with an SRT4. We can't do that without forced induction. The SRT4 is a factory performance car and the supercharged tC would have been in a good position to compete with that. And the tC is nowhere there.


BTW, the 350z TT is FAST.
Old Sep 7, 2005 | 05:15 PM
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uh, even with TWIN turbos the 350 is still poop, it only got around 75 hp to the wheels for 4 thousand dollars...ef that....its a good car if your a 40 year old man in a mid life crisis, and too poor to afford a REAL mid life crisis car...

get a life people, the freaking SC will come out, and it will put MORE hp under the hood, and people WILL buy it....regardless of how you are percieving it now....the fact remains , it is a forced induction power increase, that is covered under warranty...str8 up...it DOES suck it keeps getting delayed , but thats life, TRD wants to make sure it is daily drivable, we dont want a bunch of candy **** whiny beetches like u all complining when your SC blows the head gasket, and tears up your internals , now do we? The scion owner is a VERY discerning customer, they are perfecting the product, and waiting fopr the carb legality to make it street safe and street legal.


uugh u all just put me in a bad mood u ef tards...
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uh, even with TWIN turbos the 350 is still poop, it only got around 75 hp to the wheels for 4 thousand dollars...ef that....its a good car if your a 40 year old man in a mid life crisis, and too poor to afford a REAL mid life crisis car...

get a life people, the freaking SC will come out, and it will put MORE hp under the hood, and people WILL buy it....regardless of how you are percieving it now....the fact remains , it is a forced induction power increase, that is covered under warranty...str8 up...it DOES suck it keeps getting delayed , but thats life, TRD wants to make sure it is daily drivable, we dont want a bunch of candy **** whiny beetches like u all complining when your SC blows the head gasket, and tears up your internals , now do we? The scion owner is a VERY discerning customer, they are perfecting the product, and waiting fopr the carb legality to make it street safe and street legal.


uugh u all just put me in a bad mood u ef tards...
yeah.... 300HP RWD straight out of the box is poop all the way..... uh huh. And 75WHP added is not exactly shabby unless you are one of those people believing the 100 WHP for $2000 claims from some turbo manufacturers. So 75WHP properly designed for the car for $4000 is not that bad. Hell... Even the most promising claims for the TRD unit are 50 WHP for $3600 installed. So going by WHP you have a 30% WHP gain for $4000 (that was your number.. I havent looked up the 350 prices) for the 350z twin turbo, or (using the more generous rumor) a 33% gain in WHP for $3600 from TRD. So they arent that far apart.

Now, for reliability the 350 is below par... alignment issues that they wont fix, and I cant wait to see the electrical issues they have. I know two mechanics that are already thinking of turning down all nissans due to their messed up designs. I helped one troubleshoot an electrical issue, and coming from an electronic engineering background I can tell you they were on crack with some of their ideas... relays running relays of identical size, the worst and most in-accurate wiring diagrams I have every come across, etc...

But, you cant really bash the 350 too much on its power output.

The delays on the SC I can handle.. the miscommunication is annoying.. but I was patient with them.. just gives me more time to save more money. And if it puts out 50 WHP or more I may consider it. But if not, I will spend my money wisely on a turbo. I for one am not some candy **** that will go running to Scion when it breaks. My motto is that if you cant fix it when it breaks, dont build it or dont b!tch when it does break. And certainly dont run to the the dealer when you blow up your motor with forced induction. That is part of knowing what you are doing and taking responsibility.
Old Sep 7, 2005 | 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by kungpaosamuraiii
Originally Posted by TRDaddiction
To all you guyz and gals that feel attached to the tC ask yourself three major questions …. Are things any worse then before?…..am I still getting poked by TRD and are they still playing mind games?…Now can I actually pass the punk in the hopped-up Dodge Neon? My answers are NO..NO..YES
Firstly, a lot of people bought a tC for the s/c because of the warranty and the considerable gain in power and the "surprisingly affordable"ness. So things started out pretty badly since some people wanted a dealer aquired little monster of a car. It is relative, but people wanted to be able to outdo an RSX-S straight from the dealer but thusfar we're having trouble staying ahead of an RSX base. Things are no worse than before but they are no better and no better than before means pretty bad compared to consumer expectations.

We're still getting poked by TRD if we ever were. These rumors have to come from somewhere and most of them that last will have come from a TRD employee that doesn't really know. And rumors abound.

Sure, a tC can pass a hopped up neon but we want to hang with an SRT4. We can't do that without forced induction. The SRT4 is a factory performance car and the supercharged tC would have been in a good position to compete with that. And the tC is nowhere there.
The SRT4 that was what i ment when I said "hopped up Neon" I was kind of hoping TRD in wich the latter half stands for RACING DEVELOPMENT would do alot better then this ... yes I like my tC very much but at this point i'm kidding myself
I don't have the no how to slap in a turbo, I will never be able to reach 250 bhp with the S/C and the warrentee in tact, My dealer promised me performance the tC is a good deal but it is not a performance car.

BTW, the 350z TT is FAST.
Old Sep 7, 2005 | 07:35 PM
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this is the BIGGEST controversey ive seen with tC owners,
to get TRD s/c or not??
hmmm.....
if u want to be covered under warranty/have some O.K. power/have safe daily driver
get the s/c
if u want mad power/dont like warranty/run 12-13's all day long, then by all means get ur turbo kits-heads-,etc....
the TRD s/c was meant to add some OK power to the engines, and be covered under warranty. it wasn't meant to be running 13's at the track, at all....

I PERSONALLy think the s/c is a waste of money, and i could outrun a s/c tC with less money spent, but different strokes for different folks, ya know

who cares about who heard wut......i have contacts at toyota, so do many others...doesn't mean i can get a str8 answer out of anyone

to each their own!!
Old Sep 7, 2005 | 08:07 PM
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i dunno the PERFOMANCE model z says 287 hp, a recent test actually said the twin turbos got only 60 some odd hp extra..thats not all that much man...
Old Sep 7, 2005 | 08:14 PM
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350z is like 235whp?? i dunno, not a 350z fan
don't research
Old Sep 7, 2005 | 08:33 PM
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Trd = truly rarely develops
Old Sep 7, 2005 | 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by shonn
So come to find out today that the damn SC is not coming out till NOVEMBER. BAH, well I guess it just leaves me more time to just spend money on other stuff. HAHA. Oh well, what can you do. The good thing is that the intercooler will be available at the same time. Please leave your feedback on this matter. Thanks.

-Shonn
Mark my words. The SC for the 2.4L will NEVER come to market. TRD has had to stop production of one 4cyl SC already because it cracks mani's. They're overpriced by $700-$800,compared to most aftermarket SC's I've seen and the hp and torque gains are minimal for the money. I'm not a hater, I just sell Toyota and Scion parts and am sick of this whole discussion. Don't get your hopes up. I will say this though. I recently spoke to a Scion rep. and he had mentioned that Scion is close to releasing 100 new accessories for the three models in the coming months. No word on that SC ever being released, though Toyota does seem to like to dangle that carrot in our faces, don't they??
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truly rarely develops? anyway... it is still published on the scion website that we are looking at the end of september for release...
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Originally Posted by shonn
So come to find out today that the damn SC is not coming out till NOVEMBER. BAH, well I guess it just leaves me more time to just spend money on other stuff. HAHA. Oh well, what can you do. The good thing is that the intercooler will be available at the same time. Please leave your feedback on this matter. Thanks.

-Shonn
Mark my words. The SC for the 2.4L will NEVER come to market. TRD has had to stop production of one 4cyl SC already because it cracks mani's. They're overpriced by $700-$800,compared to most aftermarket SC's I've seen and the hp and torque gains are minimal for the money. I'm not a hater, I just sell Toyota and Scion parts and am sick of this whole discussion. Don't get your hopes up. I will say this though. I recently spoke to a Scion rep. and he had mentioned that Scion is close to releasing 100 new accessories for the three models in the coming months. No word on that SC ever being released, though Toyota does seem to like to dangle that carrot in our faces, don't they??
hook us up with some discounts lol....
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Originally Posted by cmdxb
i dunno the PERFOMANCE model z says 287 hp, a recent test actually said the twin turbos got only 60 some odd hp extra..thats not all that much man...


The PERFORMANCE COUPE is not the fast model. Even the $27,000 base model has 287 HP. The Track model and the anniversary model have 300 HP. I love my tC... and contrary to some whining I have heard it has a lot of good potential.. but come on... 287 HP stock in a RWD car is pretty nice for $27000. Like I said, given the issues with them and some other nissans I wouldnt buy one... but they still kick a$$ driveability wise.
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im tired of hearing about this as well......
needs to be squashed
and just becuz its posted on the site, doesn't mean can't be changed/canceled
Old Sep 7, 2005 | 08:50 PM
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Off topic, of course, but a VQ35 twin turbo produced 768 hp. The GReddy single turbo makes +100 whp guaranteed on a safe tune.
Old Sep 8, 2005 | 04:29 AM
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Originally Posted by engifineer
Originally Posted by cmdxb
uh, even with TWIN turbos the 350 is still poop, it only got around 75 hp to the wheels for 4 thousand dollars...ef that....its a good car if your a 40 year old man in a mid life crisis, and too poor to afford a REAL mid life crisis car...

get a life people, the freaking SC will come out, and it will put MORE hp under the hood, and people WILL buy it....regardless of how you are percieving it now....the fact remains , it is a forced induction power increase, that is covered under warranty...str8 up...it DOES suck it keeps getting delayed , but thats life, TRD wants to make sure it is daily drivable, we dont want a bunch of candy **** whiny beetches like u all complining when your SC blows the head gasket, and tears up your internals , now do we? The scion owner is a VERY discerning customer, they are perfecting the product, and waiting fopr the carb legality to make it street safe and street legal.


uugh u all just put me in a bad mood u ef tards...
yeah.... 300HP RWD straight out of the box is poop all the way..... uh huh. And 75WHP added is not exactly shabby unless you are one of those people believing the 100 WHP for $2000 claims from some turbo manufacturers. So 75WHP properly designed for the car for $4000 is not that bad. Hell... Even the most promising claims for the TRD unit are 50 WHP for $3600 installed. So going by WHP you have a 30% WHP gain for $4000 (that was your number.. I havent looked up the 350 prices) for the 350z twin turbo, or (using the more generous rumor) a 33% gain in WHP for $3600 from TRD. So they arent that far apart.

Now, for reliability the 350 is below par... alignment issues that they wont fix, and I cant wait to see the electrical issues they have. I know two mechanics that are already thinking of turning down all nissans due to their messed up designs. I helped one troubleshoot an electrical issue, and coming from an electronic engineering background I can tell you they were on crack with some of their ideas... relays running relays of identical size, the worst and most in-accurate wiring diagrams I have every come across, etc...

But, you cant really bash the 350 too much on its power output.

The delays on the SC I can handle.. the miscommunication is annoying.. but I was patient with them.. just gives me more time to save more money. And if it puts out 50 WHP or more I may consider it. But if not, I will spend my money wisely on a turbo. I for one am not some candy **** that will go running to Scion when it breaks. My motto is that if you cant fix it when it breaks, dont build it or dont b!tch when it does break. And certainly dont run to the the dealer when you blow up your motor with forced induction. That is part of knowing what you are doing and taking responsibility.
Well if you don’t like the Z try an EVO (my local scion service rep drives an EVO VIII), WRX or STI save your money to tune one of those babies

Your all kidding yourself, before I joined this forum I was content with my tC. The users of this forum told me to ditch every TRD component i.e. sway bar, springs, axle back ECT and I was laughed at for recommending anything TRD.and your all right, you have all proved that TRD has not designed a single component for the tC that really performs past expectations. Do you expect the S/C to be any different.?..This forum has taught me Toyota is marketing a Supra and producing one more Celica....with out the aftermarket industry is nothing….what do you expect when I tell you to trade it!!
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Put an aftermarket exhaust on your tC and then blow a head gasket and see if Toyota REALLY COVERS IT, I bet they weasel out!!!
Old Sep 8, 2005 | 04:39 AM
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Put an aftermarket exhaust on your tC and then blow a head gasket and see if anyone will ever stop laughing at you again.

Unless you're saying an exhaust will warrant a reason for Toyota not to repair the blown gasket? If so, sue.
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Originally Posted by cmdxb
i dunno the PERFOMANCE model z says 287 hp, a recent test actually said the twin turbos got only 60 some odd hp extra..thats not all that much man...

Well if you don’t like the Z try an EVO (my local scion service rep drives an EVO VIII), WRX or STI save your money to tune one of those babies
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Personally TRD SC can suck it. With the amount of delays it's just means they didn't have the for thinking that we all had been told. The SC was just a good idea, and may make it on someones car in the next year or two. The gas prices the way they are, who would want to spend 3.50 on super on a car that still won't break 0-60 under 5 and still won't make a good lap car. Want a sports car, buy a sports car. The TC doesn't handle like one, take it to the track you'll see... why start off with something so raw.



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