ZPIracing Stage 1 Short block
10-27-2005, 11:52 PM
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Originally Posted by ignitionr34
3500 msrp not bad.... this would actually sell to people who don't want to or don't have enough knowledge to build the block themselves...
You start messing w/ the motor once, you become a slave to it forever thats all Im gonna say
10-28-2005, 12:14 AM
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Originally Posted by BlkSandPrlTurbotC
Originally Posted by Simplyscion
You start messing w/ the motor once, you become a slave to it forever thats all Im gonna say
10-28-2005, 12:32 AM
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Theres a time and place for that...its called a 2nd car...not the car most of us are making payments on still...theres a difference between slapping on a lil boost and opening up the block and messing w/ internals...either way you are gonna become a slave to that motor, but at least the turbo is bolt on.
10-28-2005, 12:41 AM
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You start messing w/ the motor once, you become a slave to it forever thats all Im gonna say
10-28-2005, 12:45 AM
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Why are you guys bustin their chops on their post? 
They just said what they were building and selling. It appears they even were parting out if asked.
As for people cracking open their blocks....yea, many are going to down the road. Some one has to do it first. It appears to be ZPI. Cool, we get first hand results.
As for being a slave to your car......uh, just posting on here kinda makes a payment towards that sickness Really tho, who would even consider many of these mods without some kind of knowledge of what is involved later. If someone is going this route, they either are doing it themselves.....or....having a turnkey done.
Why, when I was a kid, building your engine did mean another block.
They just said what they were building and selling. It appears they even were parting out if asked. As for people cracking open their blocks....yea, many are going to down the road. Some one has to do it first. It appears to be ZPI. Cool, we get first hand results.
As for being a slave to your car......uh, just posting on here kinda makes a payment towards that sickness
Really tho, who would even consider many of these mods without some kind of knowledge of what is involved later. If someone is going this route, they either are doing it themselves.....or....having a turnkey done.Why, when I was a kid, building your engine did mean another block.
10-28-2005, 01:06 AM
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Originally Posted by ScionDad
Why are you guys bustin their chops on their post? They just said what they were building and selling. It appears they even were parting out if asked.
As for people cracking open their blocks....yea, many are going to down the road. Some one has to do it first. It appears to be ZPI. Cool, we get first hand results.
As for being a slave to your car......uh, just posting on here kinda makes a payment towards that sickness Really tho, who would even consider many of these mods without some kind of knowledge of what is involved later. If someone is going this route, they either are doing it themselves.....or....having a turnkey done.
Why, when I was a kid, building your engine did mean another block.
They just said what they were building and selling. It appears they even were parting out if asked. As for people cracking open their blocks....yea, many are going to down the road. Some one has to do it first. It appears to be ZPI. Cool, we get first hand results.
As for being a slave to your car......uh, just posting on here kinda makes a payment towards that sickness
Really tho, who would even consider many of these mods without some kind of knowledge of what is involved later. If someone is going this route, they either are doing it themselves.....or....having a turnkey done.Why, when I was a kid, building your engine did mean another block.
When I was a kid(still am), building your engine didnt mean spending $3500 for a new bottom end and pistons...you buy a new short block for a complete rebuild of the internals. Who cares who did it first, it doesnt really mean much other than they can charge whatever they feel like charging cause nobody has done it yet...give it a few months and Im sure that price will be drastically reduced...I cant wait to get into work tomm and see what a shorty is gonna cost me from my parts dept.
10-28-2005, 01:41 AM
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Ohh and for the record Sciondad, Im not really trying to bust anyones *****, Im merely trying to install some wisdom into some of these youngsters before they get themselves way in over their head, and lefts face it...we were all stubborn when we were young and regret some things that we have done in the past...it was all in the learning experience that makes you what you are today, but just go and F$%k up an old beater instead of your $20,000 car(surely after a few mods it will be close to 20gs) unless you really know what your doind or got the paper stacked in the bank to get yourself out of a jam.
10-28-2005, 01:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Simplyscion
Ohh and for the record Sciondad, Im not really trying to bust anyones *****, Im merely trying to install some wisdom into some of these youngsters before they get themselves way in over their head, and lefts face it...we were all stubborn when we were young and regret some things that we have done in the past...it was all in the learning experience that makes you what you are today, but just go and F$%k up an old beater instead of your $20,000 car(surely after a few mods it will be close to 20gs) unless you really know what your doind or got the paper stacked in the bank to get yourself out of a jam.
10-28-2005, 01:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Simplyscion
Originally Posted by BlkSandPrlTurbotC
an 11:1 CR!?!?!?
OK maybe $3500 isnt TOOOOO bad
my apologies to ZPI if i came across rude....im still getting the turbo
10-28-2005, 01:51 AM
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Originally Posted by BlkSandPrlTurbotC
Originally Posted by Simplyscion
Ohh and for the record Sciondad, Im not really trying to bust anyones *****, Im merely trying to install some wisdom into some of these youngsters before they get themselves way in over their head, and lefts face it...we were all stubborn when we were young and regret some things that we have done in the past...it was all in the learning experience that makes you what you are today, but just go and F$%k up an old beater instead of your $20,000 car(surely after a few mods it will be close to 20gs) unless you really know what your doind or got the paper stacked in the bank to get yourself out of a jam.
...hell, Im only 23 but my first car was a 71' Nova 350/350(everything done by me and my father) that I still have but needs some front end work( I have a fresh front clip sitting in my backyard just dont have the time)and I have slowly progressed towards imports over the years as well. If your hanging out in the Power Hungry forums, I really hope you would know a lil bit about motors, or at least be in there to learn from the guys that do...the problem is that more and more these guys arent really here to learn, but instead see what the big guys are doing to their motors and try to duplicate them and dont know the first thing to do when something goes wrong...
10-28-2005, 01:56 AM
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Originally Posted by BlkSandPrlTurbotC
Originally Posted by Simplyscion
Originally Posted by BlkSandPrlTurbotC
an 11:1 CR!?!?!?
OK maybe $3500 isnt TOOOOO bad
my apologies to ZPI if i came across rude....im still getting the turbo
10-28-2005, 02:59 AM
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Personally I think $3500 is a lot of money, but I would be willing to spend it if there is no other cheaper alternative. I’m really new when it comes to cars and working on them. I didn’t start wanting to learn until I made my first car purchase, my scion. Ideally I would love to learn to work on my engine, but for right now I don’t have the time or experience. And ZPI coming out with a short block with forged pistons is perfect for a guy like me.
Anyways, stop giving the people at ZPI a hard time about the price; they are trying their hardest to reach out to the scion community in offering products before anyone else. And the price they get the stock block for is $2700, I would say $800 sounds about right when it comes to manufacturing the forged pistons, labor and whatever else they have to do. And they did mention they would sell just the pistons. So it works out for the people who would on their own motors.
Also, if you can find a new or used short block for a tC at suitable price for you, I’m sure you can ship it to ZPI and they’ll modify the short block for at a reasonable price.
ZPI KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK!
Anyways, stop giving the people at ZPI a hard time about the price; they are trying their hardest to reach out to the scion community in offering products before anyone else. And the price they get the stock block for is $2700, I would say $800 sounds about right when it comes to manufacturing the forged pistons, labor and whatever else they have to do. And they did mention they would sell just the pistons. So it works out for the people who would on their own motors.
Also, if you can find a new or used short block for a tC at suitable price for you, I’m sure you can ship it to ZPI and they’ll modify the short block for at a reasonable price.
ZPI KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK!