I've got I/H/E/pulley and short shifter and I am low 15s. 15.2ish consistant........14.9 is possible, but no way in hell is it likely to get a 14 flat NA.

At the most, even fully gutted, I would be surprised if my tC hit 14.5. I've held with a Golf 1.8T (intake and exhaust) but at his rear window from 20-120.

I would like to see a video of you running a 14 flat or in that case, anything lower than a 14.5 with only bolt ons. Not discrediting you, but Good luck.

 

Are you talking to me?

 

NM

 

ummm...no one said 14 flat. If you are talking to me, I said 14.8-15 flat. Maybe I missed something, but who said they can run 14 flat with I/H/E is from another planet, either that or they have a tubular framed that's only 1700lbs.

 

Yeah, my bad, read that wrong.....had too many files open.

 

No prob.

 

I think it comes down to driver. If you take a I/H/E/Pulley N/A tC it would make less power still than a tC with no mods but a s/c. All it takes to see that is a look at the Dyno Pages. But I think it's very possible for a n/a tC with I/H/E/P gutted interior to be around the same times as a Stock full interior s/c tC. It would be like my tC...I had I/H/E then got rid of the intake and swapped on a S/C the only difference being a Intake/Super...think about it, it has to be the driver not the car.

 

I was reiterating you're "never a dull moment with you" statement, you posted before mine got up there, lol

 

I have no idea why it says that on their website but they run much times bone stock. 13.9 is way off.

 

Is that the 5.7 or the 6.1 model? I could see that with the 6.1 litre model.

 

NM, I believe the first versions (i think 04 were the 5.7s and the new ones are 6.0s)

 

I'm talking about the LS2 (6.0).. Motor trend has it listed as 4.7 0-60mph and 13.3 @ 106mph. People have been running very low 13s bone stock on the GTO forums, one of them hit a 13 flat.

Even the older 5.7 model will run better then the 13.9 that he quoted from their website.

His turbo tC does not have enough power to beat that car from a roll.. From the line it wouldn't even be a race, even if the tC was on DR's.

 

If that LS2 hooked up on the line, then yeah, no contest. If it spun and the tC hooked up, it would seriously take some good shifting to catch it by mid track, but I do agree that it would still lose to the GTO in the 1/4, but not by more than 1-1.5 lengths if that. If the tC has a good driver, then maybe it could at least only lose by 1 length.

 

Not to argue or anything, but the I/H/E/Pulley setup of a tC I recorded clicking 14.8-15 flat runs was not gutted. It was full factory trim. And dyno #'s are overrated. You can not just judge a race by the PEAK HP #'s alone. You have to factor in how the cars PRODUCE the power it has.

 

Agreed.


Free spinning on a dyno is nice for numbers but times are a lot harder to achieve.

 

FYI...the site states this is the Auto GTO times. Seeing as how the Manual actually cost MORE than the Auto version, the chances of encountering a M/T GTO are slimmer than an Auto GTO. And factoring in a possible 2 sec difference between M/T and Auto, I reckon the M/T would be near mid 13's.


God I love how you just KNOW our car like it was your own.... OMG that is the funniest thing I've read all day. I can't stop laughing at this comment. You have a lot to learn my young Pada One..

 

MikeScion ran a 12.7 in the 1/4 on a out of the box ZPI Stage 1 kit set @ 11 PSI...

 

It's hard to believe, but I'm not doubting that it could be possible. I'm just in question of the full specs of the tC.
Gutted and only a racing bucket in it?

 

Full Interior, Daily Driven, 11ish PSI ZPI Stage 1. He has the time slip by the way.

 

Hey, that's cool. Good for him. Like I said, I wasn't doubting him, but I was honestly sceptical. I knew there was a possibility it could be done, but just wanted to see what came of it. Congratulations to him though.

No time slip necessary.