wow - ptuning goes to englishtown? finally an event that isnt hours away and i miss it - what were they running? When is the next event they will be at englishtown? Ide like to see them or dezod at englishtown. Both grade A companies for anybody wanting to buy a turbo kit.

 

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Inspection varies from state to state and sometime county to county for that matter so I can't tell ya. It doesn't mean jack ish for me. I can run cat free and not run into any problems but I don't.

 

I'm pretty sure with the turbo and the exhaust it's taking us from 2 cats to 1... and I'm pretty sure in PA you only need one cat to pass emissions.

 

Incorrect

The PTUNING exhaust does not have a cat built in, so if you add that it would make you catless. You will fail every emission test known to man with no cats, there are ways around it if you "know" people.

You would be removing the cat from the exhaust manifold as well as removing the cat on the midpipe.

What you could do is add a Magnaflow high flow 3" in, 3" out cat to the setup that should get you through emissions.

 

I see if there's no cats where would the o2 sensor go? Or is there holes for these in the ptuning exhaust? That's going suck with no cats. I'm pretty sure I can find a place to pass it though just as long as the check engine light isn't on.

 

Are you guys sure you've been doing research on this stuff? It certainly doesn't seem like you know what you're really getting yourselves into. Its more than slapping a turbo on, being tuned and getting an exhaust....a lot more.

The PTUNING turbo kit will have a bung on the downpipe for your primary O2.

If you get their turbo-back exhaust, or s-pipe back you will need to have an additional O2 bung welded onto the s-pipe.

Essentially once you remove the primary O2, there isn't a cat to check efficiency because the cat on the midpipe is after the secondary O2 sensor.

So if emissions wasn't an issue you could run cat free.

If emissions is an issue you can:

1 - Save the stock exhaust to throw on when emissions comes around so you'll pass and swap back.
2 - You find a shady emissions guy, hit him off on the side to pass you with your PTUNING exhaust.
3 - You have a high flow cat welded on to the exhaust.

Those are essentially all of your options.

When the car is tuned you won't have to worry about CEL's Toan knows exactly what he's doing.

 

We've ask'd about emissions with the turbo and exhaust, and about the cats, and Chris said we would have no problems and that the exhaust comes with a cat on it.

 

until 4-5 month ago i didn't know anything about turbos, now i know that using the search button helps but there is still probally ALOT of stuff i still don't know...

up until i changed what turbo kit we were going for.. i was going to us the trd exhaust.
i don't know anything about the ptuning exhaust...
i know i have asked about exaust.. and now i have two different answers...
thats something i'll look into more...

 

trd exhaust is just an axel back - you want a full exhaust which is the midpipe going all the way back to the end of the car (where the exhaust is) - 2.5" is the smallest you want to go - since you dont have an exhaust i would say go for a 3" all the way back (which is what the ptuning is)

 

no. kurt wrong chris.
i'll call chris from ptuning today

 

the only rerason why i was gonna keep the trd exhaust was because the decentant kit, you can use the stock exhaust... but again we are going ptuning, and i know the better choice is the full 3"...

 

could have sworn MrC told me that there are 3 bungs already built onto the downpipe. One for primary O2, one for wideband and one for secondary O2. Pretty sure it comes like that.

 

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our 3" downpipe on our turbo kit comes with two bung, one for the primary and one for the secondary O2 sensor.

MrC

 

Yup...and who called it

Everyone doesn't run a wideband, they should, but they don't so it would add to the cost of manufacturing to include an additional bung that may not be used. It is a given that each tC has 2 O2 sensors, well should.

 

Alright that's what I wanted to make sure of. I must of misunderstood about the cats. My bad...

 

No biggie though, just take the spipe to any muffler or exhaust shop to have a bung welded on for your wideband.

 

Would anyone recommend the energy suspension motor mounts when going boost or can I run with the stock mounts? I wouldn't mind getting them its just all extra money I have now I'm putting away for the turbo.

 

The tC should have come from the factory with the ES motor mounts. You should put them on if you car is 100% stock so there is no question when going turbo.