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Old Jan 17, 2007 | 09:00 PM
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Don't know much about the S/C's but i've familiarized myself with the turbos ALOT...

how much work would it take to get 250 to the wheels (AT) with an s/c setup? would a pulley and emanage ultimate and larger injectors do it?

Also, what is this rumor about the $1500 price drop?! This is what has made me change my mind from a greddy turbo kit to the s/c

And, will there ever be an 07 s/c?

Does the s/c have to be installed by the dealer to have the waranty?
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the SC stock on the AT is putting down around 170whp.
So, i would say you're going to need a lot of work to get to 250whp. Headers, full exhaust, menth injection, emanage ultimate, and a 12lbs. pulley.

and a few days ago i heard the 07 SC was released from TRD. This may or may not be true, but if it hasnt been announced publically yet it should be soon
Old Jan 17, 2007 | 09:21 PM
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this is great news!

is there a 12lb pulley ready to buy? or do i need to get one custome made?

also, will i need injectors with the emanage ultimate? or can i stick with the stockers?

id like to get the 250 without any sort of injection... just bolt ons you know? or else i'd just throw on a nitrous kit :-P

is it vital to change the headers? id prefer not to and get the megan OE full exhaust so that i can keep sound relatively low
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well, getting to 250whp will be much easier with headers
the stock SC injectors may just be big enough for this, but i would be safe and go with something a little bigger.

NST can custom make your 12lb. pulley

but at 250whp, prepare for your transmission to start slipping.
Old Jan 17, 2007 | 11:41 PM
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hmmm, i thought 250 was the max without slippage?

ok, my goal is 225 now
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Originally Posted by mike6789k
this is great news!

is there a 12lb pulley ready to buy? or do i need to get one custome made?

also, will i need injectors with the emanage ultimate? or can i stick with the stockers?

id like to get the 250 without any sort of injection... just bolt ons you know? or else i'd just throw on a nitrous kit :-P

is it vital to change the headers? id prefer not to and get the megan OE full exhaust so that i can keep sound relatively low


My boy Rich's setup

Header
Injen Intake
9 PSI ZPI Pulley
Exhaust
upgraded bypass valve

netted him 230whp on a M/T tC.

IMO, your going to need a tad bit more because you bought an Auto.
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Does anyone know if the 07 S/C will have more power to it than the older models? I also purchased an automatic 07 TC and was wondering what I can do to get up in to some good amount of numbers.
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Does anyone know if the 07 S/C will have more power to it than the older models? I also purchased an automatic 07 TC and was wondering what I can do to get up in to some good amount of numbers.

They would be advertizing a different pulley size if that was the case.
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the 07 kit is coming out between march-july for $1500 right???
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LOL 1500???? Try almost 4000 installed

i also heard TRD will be releasing their kit very soon
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LOL 1500???? Try almost 4000 installed

i also heard TRD will be releasing their kit very soon
eh, dealer said 3200 + 469 install... but wasnt there a rumor about a price drop coming really soon?
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LOL 1500???? Try almost 4000 installed

i also heard TRD will be releasing their kit very soon
eh, dealer said 3200 + 469 install... but wasnt there a rumor about a price drop coming really soon?
The rumor was for the 05/06 design im pretty sure
Old Jan 18, 2007 | 05:30 PM
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ahhh damnit...

okay, so ill be expecting to pay $4000 installed...

and also, does an upgraded bpv help with power?

so far im looking to get 12psi pulley and full exhaust excluding header (i may decide to get a header later)

now, i'm assuming i will need an emanage to tune to the 12psi, right? does open loop / closed loop still apply here? will the TRD reflash affect anything?

I also heard that if you just get an emanage on the stock s/c, you can get an extra 20-30 hp, how do you do this though? is it just the tune or is there some other setting?
Old Jan 18, 2007 | 06:55 PM
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Buy your supercharger from TRDSparks.com. It will be cheaper than getting it through your dealer. Sparks has it for 2950, if I remember right. Dealers will sell at MSRP of 3200.
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supercharchers squeel like a piggy
turbochargers go pfffft between gears

...thats about as far as my knowledge takes me...sorry if I wasn't any help
Old Jan 18, 2007 | 06:59 PM
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lol the TRD SC is actually very very quiet for a SC
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if i get custom ground cams, will i need a piggyback?
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I would say YES

anytime you alter your setup, you should get a retune.
Old Jan 18, 2007 | 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by TheQuietThings
I would say YES

anytime you alter your setup, you should get a retune.
got it, so how much should a tune cost? ive been quotes $500 for a unichip tune and $875 for an emanage tune...

seems wayyyy to high right?

also, should I get the emanage or the unichip? Id like a 91 and 100 octane tune
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well, what you should do, is get everything installed together, and have the car tuned once over. Dyno tuning can range anywhere between 500 and 1000 dollars.

The Unichip and Emanage essentially do the same thing, its just that more people know how to work an emanage.



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