so wait.. did u jus agree with me that ptuning is amazing?? wat point are ur trying to prove? I must me a "ignant" sum-b*tch but if a manifold from dezod cracked on me not once but twice then I would continue saying TT>dezod never heard of any problems with any TT manifolds, fitment issues are another story lol

 

i say do it man, you dont want to be waiting for a new mani dont ya?

ma flex pipe


this is what i got
http://www.atpturbo.com/Merchant2/me...egory_Code=BCS

 

i asked paul @ dezod about the flex joint, he said just using the spring bolts will be fine and not to waste my time getting the flex joint. Althought the flex join + spring bolts would probably be the safest possible thing.

 

yeah the good thing about flex joint is that it takes vibrations better than just springs.. doesnt take a lot of force to make it flex

 

i know i am jealous!!! lol

 

Thats why I went with a treadstone CAST IRON manifold. Stainless steal SUCKS it will crack no matter what kind you use. Sorry to hear about it but all I can say your arent the only one with Dezod manifold problems.

 

i've seen cast manifold crack too.. problem with SS is thermal expansion

 

You have selective reading today? He did not say P-tuning was amazing. He said he would choose P-tuning and Dezod any day over TT.

Volume does not equate. You haven't heard of a TT mani breaking simply because there aren't as many out there as there are Dezod manifolds. If the volume were equal you would hear of about the same failure rate. Not to mention anything will fail if it is installed incorrectly.

 

not sure thats a true statement but i get your point about proper install

 

ok so he still agreed with ptuning, yeah volume etc etc. but there's enough TT kits out there for atleast ONE of the mani's to fail, yet still hasn't. 2 for soflo and even bluetc said he's seen it before.

 

Well I have to agree with some others here that going FI is a never ending task of increased maintenence over an N/A setup. I like the idea of the extra hp....but going FI isn't worth it for me to go that way. I'm happy with my modded n/a.
The main comment I would like to say about this thread...and that you have gone through 2 dezod mani's.... and the comments that more people have problems with them. Well, I think that Paul is a good guy and sells quality parts...but sometimes S*** happens.... and the higher numbers might not mean that dezod parts are more prone to going bad...but the numbers just appear to be higher b/c a lot of people purchase from them.... just my 2 cents.

 

iv seen cast crack aswell

 

ive seen a dart block crack

 

He never disagreed with P-tuning though, I didn't see that anywhere in this thread. The fact is we still don't know is a TT mani has failed, everyone isn't on the SL forum and everyone doesn't post every problem they run into. It just so happens this made it to the main stream.

 

if i had a mani snap like that or even crack you bet id be on Todds ___ about it and it would be in my thread...lmao

not trying to start an argument so please dont take this wrong, im just throwing this out there.

iv seen more TT threads with peeps showing off their TT gear more than anyother....we tend to start more threads and then proceed to jack em...lol...so if their was a mani issue you bet your ars it would be posted exp if it looked liked soflo's

 

pics or it didnt happen

 

Like I stated that's like trying to say everyone that buys a turbo kit or whatever the case may be posts pics up, starts a thread, etc., and that is simply not true. Whether it has happened to TT, P-tuning, Greddy, ZPI, etc., is debatable. I doubt you'll see any of those companies saying, "A customer broke our mani..."; The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence and i'll leave it at that.

 

i got ya i was just stating my observations...nothing more

 

This is not boost related but relates to cracks on manifolds, I had a Alphawerks header on my car when I was N/A. The support tabs that bolt the bottom of the header to the block support was broke when I got it so I took it to a welder and had them re weld these tabs back on. After racing my car at the track I guess it was too much strain on the tabs and the welds broke causing the header to twist (no spring bolts or flex pipe used) and tear a massive hole in the bottom of the collector. I am having the shop building my setup make a custom bracket for everything using these support brackets on the block or using the bolt holes on the block.

 

soo i already got the mani rewelded... put a stock gasket on and guess what, NO MORE gasket leak... :O the copper one started leaking after 1 night of street tuning and the stock one is holding up, putting the spring bolts in 2morrow, also we found a massive vacuum leak lmao.. a hose that was going to nothing.. i think i was using it for the black box but forgot to take it off when i got the ultimate and tossed the blue, fixing the leak and vacuum leak all the sudden my car hit 20 lbs we were like wtf lol, turned it down to 18, still on ____ty stock spark plugs :X and their fouled as ____.. putting in step 1's 2morrow aswell :D ya this really wasnt such a big deal i think i just reacted accordingly because this car never seems to go the way we want.