SoFloTC

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Just wondering how much timing my fellow scioners have in their tunes, built or not im just curious, mike said he used 16 degrees in his street tune today on 14 lbs and i was like wtf isnt that alot? obviously timing is where the power is to be had not just the fuel map, so whats everyones tune look like in the timing regards?

Ill be running 22 lbs with a aem water/meth injection and greddy ultimate.. im wondering how much timing i should be running to make some good power... whats Safe and when does it start to get unsafe for a daily driver?

BlackKnight

It depends on the car, mods, and tuner. Some tuners will push harder than others and they have the necessary tools to check for knock better than the OEM sensor. Who is tuning it for you and what management?

ElevationTC

a basic rule of timing is you pull 1 degree per psi! Thats just to get ur to a decent igntion map! once ur there you can play..

and i can tell you.. 14 psi + 16 degrees of timing with 200 treadware tires = 3rd gear smoking the tires! and im super rich 11.0

Ace83

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im at 19 degrees at 7 psi right now, afrs are like 11.3-11.5 and its only like 205 hp.. i feel like i need to advance to about 6 degrees more!

ElevationTC

im at 24 degrees at 7 psi

Ace83

iTrader: (6)

^^ thats good to know.. how much power you making at 7?

m6ar2cel6oTC

on boost how much timing should the greddy map be on?

SoFloTC

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someone clarify something im new to the whole tuning/map thing, to make power we pull timing or add timing? or what is it called

BlackKnight

Add timing is called advance timing and pull timing is called retard timing. Retarding timing will loose power and increase combustion temps but prevent knock if you are having knock.

SoFloTC

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i have a feeling my tuner doesnt mess with much timing for some reason.

Ace83

iTrader: (6)

Exactly what blacknight said.. for piggybacks often you do retard coz the stock ignition map is gonna be too advanced being a N/A tune.. but it is usually a balance between fuel and ignition, you can go aggressive on fuel but with conservative ignition or vice versa. If your tuner didnt mess with the ignition tune, probably he tuned more on the rich side but should be good as long as you dont get any knocks and makes good power

SoFloTC

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i saw my ignition map once and all i saw were 0-3 numbers which means he pulled the hell out of the timing right?

paul_dezod

Overall ignition timing will be contingent upon several variables Chad. (all of which are not mentioned, these are just a few)

1) Cams
2) Turbo Efficiency
3) Octane Fuel
4) Intercooler efficiency
5) Air temps

Ace83

iTrader: (6)

are you using a standalone?

SoFloTC

iTrader: (3)

no, ultimate.