Dezod,

in your opinion, how much power can you get with 9.5 pulley and ems?

but that sucks you can say anything....I well the record is 311whp without the IC....So lets hope it makes atleast that much power...

 

the 311 was meth injected and had a ton of other supporting mods, only putting the intercooler you shouldnt expect as much.

 

Well...some close....remember that this car is tunes ems, which allows for better tuning and accessing more power...Well, I hope it can get atleast 250-275HP...311whp i guess is pushing it.

 

LOL
311 was with methanol.
yes do not expect that much gains with the intercooler.
I gues if you get 10- 15 HP would be the most out with that top mount intercooler.

 

I wouldn't even expect that much out the TMIC.

 

even then that'd be quite an accomplishment

S/C without the crappy BPV 200 hp
TMIC +15

215 with a decent tune and pulley 250 territory, which is pretty satisfactory IMO

 

I wonldn't shell out another 2-3k for 10-15whp....that is a waste of cash. Everyone knows the IC is not going be cheap. I rather take that money and dump into other supporting mods or just into another part of the car.

 

2-3K for an intercooler ? you guys think the Intercooler wil be more $$ then the supercharger itself ?
AMEN!
let's be serious peeps.

 

TRD parts equal tons of cash....Your paying for the Toyota name....but I dont think its going to less than 2k. 3k is pushing it.

 

LOL i think that too.
3K would be like a JESUS Intercooler !

 

honestly, dont complain so much about its price tag until its put out there, lol

 

People dont understand that an Intercooler does not egual horsepower. Its not like you bolt the thing on and Mgically have instant horsepower like with an exhuast or something.
An intercooler allows for a more generous tune due to lower intake temperatures. It allows you to run more boost because of lower intake temeratures. IT DOES NOT PUT MORE AIR IN thE ENGINE!!!

A typical intercooler runs around $1200ish dollars.
Install, Maybe $300
AEM/GREDDY/UNICHIP with harness $600
Dyno and TUNE: $500
Plus supporting mods.

Yup this is going to cost you over $2000 and you will completely loose your warranty on engine related issues. (if you can have an upgraded BPV, what do you think a non warrantied intercooler is going to do for your warranty?)

 

air to water intercoolers are sick very efficient

 

says a prayer tonight.. Please come out soon! please come out soon!

 

I saw this car in Ohio at Exposed a few weeks ago.I also had a chance to talk with Gardners.he also said that it should be out soon.I'm sure if its a kit a new radiator will come with it.I noticed additional cooling line ran to the passenger side of the radiator itself.Thats going to jack up the price too.I sure it will need a another reflash and a few other things.One thing for sure it wont be cheap.

 

I was laughing because i was thinking the same thing. People are looking at it as a hp mod which in reality its a mod that allows you to "make" horsepower.

 

Well I think the thing is that you won't see a set HP increase from it and can't always measure it exactly, but you should see an increase. So in a sense it can be like bolting on HP. Of course understanding how it's actually achieving that increase is a whole other thing...

 

^ with a supercharger running the same pulley you will see a decrease because you will loose about 2lb's of boost with an IC setup. That is why people who insist on trying to make an IC work well with a s/c they are putting 12lb pulley's or higher on. I rather see someone buy a 10.5 or 11lb pulley and not run an IC ...and call it a day. The TRD s/c is not a super high performance unit.

 

Not really. If you take say my car for instance, just the supercharger, NOTHING else, no exhuast, no intake, no header, nothing, but a Supercharger. I dynoed at 191HP with this setup.
If I take my setup and simply add this intercooler, I WILL HAVE LESS POWER!!! It might not loose the 1-2 PSI that a FMIC does, but there HAS to be a loss just due to the added volume. So it isnt bolting on HP, its loosing HP.
But this can be negated by adding a more aggresive tune and more boost, which is the entire point of an intercooler on any setup. BUT THAT COSTS ALOT MORE MONEY.


Take the ZPI stage 0 for instance. It was LOW boost no intercooler. Adding the intercooler isnt what gave the stage 1 more power than the stage 0, it was adding the intercooler which allowed you to up the boost so you could safely hit those 300whp numbers.
It is no different with the supercharger, simply adding this TRD part will not be beneficial without a tunning device, a tune, more boost, a BPV that can handle the more boost, possibly larger injectors, a header to get it through and an exhuast to compliment it all.
We are talking thousands of dollars here!!!!

 

i would like a TRD intercooler to my setup..
i would put my car up to "test" for trd
haha