Notices
Scion tC 1G Forced Induction Turbo and supercharger applications...

whats a good engine management

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 02-27-2011, 02:53 PM
  #1  
Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
Thread Starter
 
rican_lunatic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 71
Default whats a good engine management

i herd a couple bad things about the aem fic. and i was wondering what is a good engine management to run on? im going to run 10 psi with 700cc injectors complete fuel system.
rican_lunatic is offline  
Old 02-27-2011, 03:04 PM
  #2  
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
Ronin Scion
SL Member
Premium Member
iTrader: (6)
 
Ace83's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: TX
Posts: 11,118
Default

aem fic and emanage ultimate have good success on the tc.. the fic have some issues but have a fix.
Ace83 is offline  
Old 02-27-2011, 03:09 PM
  #3  
Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
Thread Starter
 
rican_lunatic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 71
Default

is the fix threw the tune or its something else that you have to get.
rican_lunatic is offline  
Old 02-27-2011, 03:31 PM
  #4  
Senior Member
10 Year Member

5 Year Member
SL Member
iTrader: (2)
 
crush02342002's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 11,271
Default

trust me when i say that they all have their pro's and con's.

for a cheap and simple to use system id go aem fic.
you want more features go with e-ultimate
want a full pnp standalone that works well with the tc .....get in line, we all have been looking for that one.
crush02342002 is offline  
Old 02-27-2011, 03:45 PM
  #5  
Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
Thread Starter
 
rican_lunatic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 71
Default

so pretty much the e-manage is a little better the the fic as in feature wise?
yea i know i want to run stand alone system a little to pricey as of now. in chicago there was a tc running stand alone. he said it was amazing investment the best you can get!! lol
rican_lunatic is offline  
Old 02-27-2011, 06:05 PM
  #6  
Senior Member
10 Year Member

5 Year Member
SL Member
iTrader: (2)
 
crush02342002's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 11,271
Default

just seems everyone has a complaint about one managment or another...best advice i can give you is pick an engine managment that has the features you want and find a tuner close by that can tune that managment you have.
crush02342002 is offline  
Old 02-27-2011, 06:47 PM
  #7  
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
 
brett561tc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: West Palm Beach, FL
Posts: 3,773
Default

how well an engine management system preforms is entirely dependent on the end users tuning and troubleshooting capabilities. i've seen people have great success and failure with every type of ems available for the tc. your best bet is to familiarize yourself with every single manual, guide, or any other resource available for your desired ems. most of the time that people on here complain about an ems running like crap is because they have no idea how to diagnose the problem, which most of the time is something very simple like adjusting st and lt fuel trims.
brett561tc is offline  
Old 02-27-2011, 09:38 PM
  #8  
Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
Thread Starter
 
rican_lunatic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 71
Default

true true o so true!! i live in chicago and i went to ams and them f___ said they wont even bother messing with tc's. we got a shop called msp and they specialize in hondas so im not really looking into that direction i know another shop in the area but they just opened and i havent herd anything from there besides a celica that got tuned there and his car was running like s___ and a tc running stand alone system which ran amazing so im guessing im gonna have to wait it out a little bit on that shop and see.
rican_lunatic is offline  
Old 02-28-2011, 03:20 AM
  #9  
Senior Member
10 Year Member

5 Year Member
SL Member
iTrader: (2)
 
crush02342002's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 11,271
Default

Originally Posted by brett561tc
how well an engine management system preforms is entirely dependent on the end users tuning and troubleshooting capabilities. i've seen people have great success and failure with every type of ems available for the tc. your best bet is to familiarize yourself with every single manual, guide, or any other resource available for your desired ems. most of the time that people on here complain about an ems running like crap is because they have no idea how to diagnose the problem, which most of the time is something very simple like adjusting st and lt fuel trims.

couldnt have said it better myself
crush02342002 is offline  
Old 02-28-2011, 04:20 AM
  #10  
Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
Thread Starter
 
rican_lunatic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 71
Default

i agree that was crystal clear
rican_lunatic is offline  
Old 02-28-2011, 04:25 AM
  #11  
Senior Member
10 Year Member

5 Year Member

Trader
SL Member
iTrader: (16)
 
yellowxhoodie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: LOWLOW Chicago
Posts: 13,746
Default

Call Sound Performance, theyre a little pricey but i know theyve doen a couple tC's.
if not i have a guy i can talk to for you.
yellowxhoodie is offline  
Old 02-28-2011, 04:59 AM
  #12  
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
iTrader: (3)
 
x_Batman_x's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: New Orleans
Posts: 2,111
Default

doesn't get better:

http://www.dezod.com/pd_apr.cfm

Its drivable and yet super powerful and comes loaded with extra features
I'm not even using half of what all its capable of (2-step, USB flashable maps, etc.)
x_Batman_x is offline  
Old 02-28-2011, 05:03 AM
  #13  
Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
Thread Starter
 
rican_lunatic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 71
Default

dude i was just looking at that lmao
rican_lunatic is offline  
Old 02-28-2011, 05:22 AM
  #14  
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
Scion Evolution
iTrader: (1)
 
WAlterEgo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 1,381
Default

Hit up sp, and for the price of that x1, you can get a pro efi which is basically the same thing with a whole bunch of other options.

Sent from my Evo4G using Tapatalk.
WAlterEgo is offline  
Old 04-07-2011, 09:36 AM
  #15  
Junior Member
5 Year Member
 
gohardgohome's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 9
Default

what about a boosted tc with no tune. whats going to happen?
gohardgohome is offline  
Old 04-07-2011, 12:32 PM
  #16  
Senior Member
10 Year Member

5 Year Member

SL Member
iTrader: (3)
 
RusWolf's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Back in US
Posts: 2,468
Default

Originally Posted by gohardgohome
what about a boosted tc with no tune. whats going to happen?
Sooner rather then later you going to blow up !
RusWolf is offline  
Old 04-07-2011, 01:40 PM
  #17  
Banned
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
Scionetics
KAD
SL Member
 
paul_dezod's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Western NY
Posts: 11,936
Default

Originally Posted by brett561tc
how well an engine management system preforms is entirely dependent on the end users tuning and troubleshooting capabilities. i've seen people have great success and failure with every type of ems available for the tc. your best bet is to familiarize yourself with every single manual, guide, or any other resource available for your desired ems. most of the time that people on here complain about an ems running like crap is because they have no idea how to diagnose the problem, which most of the time is something very simple like adjusting st and lt fuel trims.
I agree 100%. Do some reading for sure. Start here:

https://docs.google.com/a/dezod.com/...ZFEwriteup.pdf
paul_dezod is offline  
Old 04-07-2011, 04:43 PM
  #18  
Junior Member
5 Year Member
 
gohardgohome's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 9
Default

are you saying like 1000 miles or 10,000 miles
gohardgohome is offline  
Old 04-07-2011, 05:59 PM
  #19  
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
iTrader: (1)
 
athletefeet66's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Upland
Posts: 1,027
Default

Originally Posted by gohardgohome
are you saying like 1000 miles or 10,000 miles
search.
https://www.scionlife.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=200808
athletefeet66 is offline  
Old 04-08-2011, 06:40 AM
  #20  
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
 
GetIt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Posts: 629
Default

I have the Hydra Nemesis 2.6, i've had nothing but great things to say about it in the past year and a half or so anytime something like this comes up. I would def say don't forget about it as one of your EMS options. It also is plug n play, which is huge.
GetIt is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Brammi
PPC: Engine / Drivetrain
4
11-13-2016 03:46 AM
scsteven
Scion xB 2nd-Gen Aero & Exterior
3
01-25-2015 01:06 AM
scionboxrox
Off-topic Cafe
0
11-24-2014 06:38 PM
eric_m
Scion xA/xB 1st-Gen Drivetrain & Power
79
03-17-2013 12:21 AM



Quick Reply: whats a good engine management



All times are GMT. The time now is 03:05 PM.