Notices
Scion tC 1G ICE & Interior In-car entertainment and electronics...

Sub Help! Please i Need All the Help I can

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jan 10, 2007 | 03:12 AM
  #41  
nebster's Avatar
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 8,961
From: Team SOLO
Default

i'm really confused to what your running. one amp, two amps what? power rating?
Old Jan 10, 2007 | 03:22 AM
  #42  
Tcguy85's Avatar
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
 
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 2,434
From: Hyde Park, NY
Default

get a 10" or 12" in a good sized ported box with about 300-500 watts rms and you'll be more than happy. i have a 10" alpine type-r in a 2cu ft ported box with only 300 watts rms and it's plenty loud. the tc doesn't need that much to get loud, i knew that before i bought what i bought.

i had 2 12's loaded in a box with a 900 watts rms amp that i could have used but i didn't wanna use my entire trunk and i knew it would be a crazy amount of bass. but comparing these in my last car, to the tc with what i have in it now it's not that far off spl wise. it really is pretty loud for one 10"
Old Jan 10, 2007 | 09:33 AM
  #43  
elchinoloco's Avatar
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
Scinergy
 
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 121
Default

Yes, you will, thats what provides the power. MAKE SURE you have a fuse within 7inches of your battery (on the power wire), because if too much power goes to the amp, it will crackle and FRY in a matter of seconds. I made the stupidest mistake of doing it WRONG and the total opposite, frying the Crunch amp I had.

A Distribution block does just that, it distributes power so that you can connect other amplifier accessories, mainly a capaciter, which is a bigger better version of a fuse, and some even have an LCD screen which tells you how much is going through it.

As for the ground, find a spot underneath or better yet off toward the top of the spare tire (where those dollar quarter sized holes are at). This also depends on where you mount your amp. I mounted mine in the foam fixture on the right of the spare tire. Hope this helps.
Old Jan 10, 2007 | 03:22 PM
  #44  
Zebman's Avatar
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
 
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 1,616
From: West Virginia, US
Default

Originally Posted by BiGg-E-tC
ok im really sorry but i am confused now

ok so i should run 4 gauge from the battery all the way back to the amp? or do i need another size wire becuase it is running so far? What is the distro block? and can i use a 4 gauge ground? and all i need to ground is the amp rite because the negative ion the subs runs back to the amp or do i ground the subs seperatly? sorry i am kinda new with all this stuff so if someone could explain it please. zebman you have really helped me out so far thanx a lot
If you really are running 1100-1500W to a single amp, you'll want to run 0 gauge. It's overkill now, but will easily allow you to add another amp in the future if you get door speakers.

A distribution block splits the energy from one wire to two, whether it is a ground distrobution block or a power distrobution block. A distrobution block is used to keep the ground to one single spot on your car, so that if your system picks up noise, the ground is in a convenient one spot to check, not 2 or 3.

The subs will be fine, you do not have to ground speakers. Think of it this way. Your car is one big circuit. To complete a circuit, the power flow has to be one big loop, from the positive terminal of your battery, to the negative terimal. The way this circuit is completed without running hundreds of wires to the negative terminal is to run the negative signal of all the accessories to the chassis of the car. When an amp is not completing the circuit, it will not operate. I do not know the specific reasons as to why, or what would happen as i'm not that well equipped in the knowledge of electronics (i'm in high school too, mind you).
Old Jan 12, 2007 | 02:40 AM
  #45  
BiGg-E-tC's Avatar
Thread Starter
Member
5 Year Member
 
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 41
From: Smithtown, New York
Default

ok i think i am understanding. but now that people are saying it mayb 1100w rms will be way to much for my tc. I am pretty good with a ratchet and stuf but i do not want to get soo far into it as to creating my own box. does anyone know of a combo that is subs amp and box together that will hit real hard for mayb less money. now that i am really thinking about it 600 for subs is a lot. mayb i could get away with spending 400 and still get subs that will hit real hard. my friends have been saying that a bazooka tube will rattly my tc but i am telling them no. so does anyone know of a good setup that will mayb run me a little less even if it isnt as powerful?
Old Jan 12, 2007 | 02:44 AM
  #46  
nebster's Avatar
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 8,961
From: Team SOLO
Default

you wont get a good sub for 400. with car audio you get what you pay for. (to an extent) if you are on a budget i heard dual makes good stuff. :whistle:
Old Jan 12, 2007 | 02:45 AM
  #47  
BiGg-E-tC's Avatar
Thread Starter
Member
5 Year Member
 
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 41
From: Smithtown, New York
Default

mayb 1 kicker cvx 10" which puts out 600 w rms would do me just fine. its in a kicker ported box and all i would need would be an amp. would this sub hit really hard in my tc? and what kinda amp could i use with it? it is wired to 2 ohms
Old Jan 12, 2007 | 02:47 AM
  #48  
BiGg-E-tC's Avatar
Thread Starter
Member
5 Year Member
 
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 41
From: Smithtown, New York
Default

how would this amp work?

http://www.cardomain.com/item/BOSGT1500D
Old Jan 12, 2007 | 02:52 AM
  #49  
Zebman's Avatar
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
 
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 1,616
From: West Virginia, US
Default

Buy a Sony Xplod amp if you're trying to save some $$$. I do not like Sony car audio products, but I would much rather have one of their products than a no-name brand.

That would do you well at getting loud, but it would sound like dirt. Nebster is right, you'll want to keep saving. Kicker makes some great amps that would obviously pair well with their speakers.
Old Jan 12, 2007 | 02:56 AM
  #50  
BiGg-E-tC's Avatar
Thread Starter
Member
5 Year Member
 
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 41
From: Smithtown, New York
Default

woudl that 10" speaker hit real hard in my tc though? i could always spend a littl eextra on the amp if i am gettin a cheaper sub. but i wanna make sure that sub is gonna hti hard and rattle my tc
Old Jan 12, 2007 | 06:29 AM
  #51  
elchinoloco's Avatar
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
Scinergy
 
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 121
Default

Should do for a tC.. I was originally going to get one 10", but a car audio guy suggested I get two for better balance..? Either way, the subs are 10" Polk Audio DB104. They went from $89, to $67, to $39 (each), which is friggin awesome.
Old Jan 12, 2007 | 12:01 PM
  #52  
SCI_TC_GUY's Avatar
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 3,435
From: Benton, IL
Default

Why not get an Elemental Designs EHQS12 and a nine.2?? the nine.2 is $175 and the EHQS12 is only $25 for a sub that could easily sell for $75-$100.... Put it in a 2.5 cu ft box tuned to 30Hz and you'd be very surprised...

There's a guy from georgia who hit a 139db with ONE of these $25 subwoofers in an SPL box - I'm sure you would be satisfied
Old Jan 12, 2007 | 02:27 PM
  #53  
trialsindude's Avatar
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
Strictly Scionized
SL Member
 
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 1,284
From: White Marsh, Balti Co., MD
Default

Originally Posted by nebster
you wont get a good sub for 400. with car audio you get what you pay for. (to an extent) if you are on a budget i heard dual makes good stuff. :whistle:
You wont get a good sub for $400 want me prove it to you?
Old Jan 12, 2007 | 02:34 PM
  #54  
SCI_TC_GUY's Avatar
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 3,435
From: Benton, IL
Default

^^ I think he was meaning to say a good substage (sub, amp, wiring, enclosure, install)
Old Jan 12, 2007 | 02:58 PM
  #55  
nebster's Avatar
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 8,961
From: Team SOLO
Default

Originally Posted by trialsindude
Originally Posted by nebster
you wont get a good sub for 400. with car audio you get what you pay for. (to an extent) if you are on a budget i heard dual makes good stuff. :whistle:
You wont get a good sub for $400 want me prove it to you?
sorry not a good sub set up. i know you can get a good sub for 400. i have two of them.

but when you look at my setup its well worth over 1500 bc of everything else needed.


and lastly

DON'T GO SONY. you will regret everything you buy from them. They are pieces of crap.
Old Jan 12, 2007 | 03:06 PM
  #56  
SCI_TC_GUY's Avatar
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 3,435
From: Benton, IL
Default

^^^ agreed.... get hifonics or directed if you're on a budget.... don't get no name (boss, crunch, rockwood) stuff..
Old Jan 12, 2007 | 03:14 PM
  #57  
nebster's Avatar
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 8,961
From: Team SOLO
Default

rockfords amps are ok but you have to go into their higher level stuff for it to be good. if you can find their old school stuff tho thats awesome.
Old Jan 12, 2007 | 07:20 PM
  #58  
BiGg-E-tC's Avatar
Thread Starter
Member
5 Year Member
 
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 41
From: Smithtown, New York
Default

i looked and i cannot find the ehqs12 sub. if a guy reached 139 decibles wouldnt that make this sub incredible and if it was that good why would it only be 35 dollars?

i was planning on trying to get a hifonics amp if i get that kicker 10" cvx i would be powering it at 900w rms. the sub is 600w rms is that too much over for powering?
Old Jan 12, 2007 | 07:38 PM
  #59  
nebster's Avatar
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 8,961
From: Team SOLO
Default

http://www.edesignaudio.com/edv2/pro...roducts_id=183

its bc they're cheap to make. eD does a great job and check this out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSMdasKsOUM
Old Jan 12, 2007 | 07:41 PM
  #60  
SCI_TC_GUY's Avatar
Senior Member
10 Year Member
5 Year Member
SL Member
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 3,435
From: Benton, IL
Default

^^^ forgot to mention.... That 139 was done with 90 watts in the SPL enclosure that stephen built....



All times are GMT. The time now is 07:24 PM.