Come on now SquallLHeart, give us the story.

Where?, When?, How?...

It looks very clean in the xb.

 

^^haha.. Fiveaxis always get stuff early.. they had the xbox 360 well before it was ever released.

figured i'd post a pic of one that's installed in a car just to show you guys how great it looks.

that's a pic of the Z1 in the xA roadster. it's crazy how clean it looks... err.... when the hell are they gonna release it to the public!?!

 

Bastards... sooo jealous. Unless you get the pro discount or it's your work, i just don't know how people spend that kind of money on this stuff.

 

From Pioneer :
CD ripping to HD is @ 2X comparing to Eclipse 5495 it's only @ 1X only

 

how is this compared to the eclipse 5495

and does it play dvds with out havin a external dvd thingy

ill either get that 1 or the ecplise

 

What are the other differences between the Z1 and the 5495? Curious... what's the price difference? Can anyone compare the Nav systems? I assume they use the same map data, but I think the Z1 has some special "smart" routing stuff. I don't know about the eclipse. I haven't heard amazing things about the UI on either of them.

 

Here is a quick comparison on the 2 very good units. I guess it's a preference of choice. Please correct me if I'm wrong thanks


AVN 5495 :
MSRP Price $2399
screen: 6.5"
Hard drive: 30GB
CD to Hard drive copy speed : 1X
Sony memory stick/DUO/PRO : Yes can be use as a security key for system
Backeye camera : BEC-105
External DVD : Yes via VTR RCA input
HD holds 3000 songs
controls via E-LAN 2 CD changer
SIRIUS Satellite Radio-ready
Circle Surround II with TruBass
9 band EQ
5 DSP presets
Sound positioning enhancement
Warranty : 1 year with ESN ( replaces your system if stolen with 1st year )

AVIC-Z1
MSRP: $2250
screen: 7"
Hard drive: 30GB
CD to Hard drive copy speed : 4X( according to website )
no flash memory slots
Back up camera : ND-BC1
external DVD :Yes
Voice recongonition ( 1 person can start the command, 2nd person can finish it and system can still picks this up )
Bluetooth enable
Smart Routing Algorithm
Learning route capability
Enable to pipe NAV + Video to external device ( such as rear view mirror )
Equalizer EEQ (3-Band Parametric)
SFEQ (Sound Focus EQ)
Loudness 3 Mode
capable of 5.1 surround sound
XM.Sirius Satellite radio Ready
Warranty : 1 Year

From Pionner regional sales rep: A few hundred AVIC-Z1 has already arrived in the
US. Most reseller will get them soon, expect offical release date to be in April

 

The 5495 doesn't have bluetooth - that would be a dealbreaker for me. But so is the MSRP...

 

Yea unfortunately for Eclipse product, but keep in mind that AVN5495 came out
last year and the AVIC-Z1 still hasn't offically avaliable in the market, who is to say
Eclipse won't come out with something later in the year to counter the AVIC-Z1
just my 2 cents. As for MSRP those are just for references almost anyone can get
better deal online anyways.

 

Oh I completely agree - I expect Eclipse and hopefully others to follow up. I'm also interested in seeing TomTom or someone else make a unit that is a little closer to a head unit replacement on their own, because the prices are still so high on these things. As for MSRP, I assume that a $2300 unit will actually go for like $1800 - that's the price I was saying was still too high.

 

Hey Squall, is it plug and play with the Scion tC wire harnesses? And also for those with steering wheel controls, will we have to get that separate harness to get it to go? Lastly, to load mp3's on it, is it necessary to listen to a CD the whole way through, because I read a review on Crutchfield about how the 5495 can only record in real time (although the reviewer may have been wrong). Ok that's it for now. Thanks for the pics by the way =)

 

If you have been reading up on this thread, most of your ?s have already been answered but of course nothing is certain til it is actually released and we test it out for ourselves.

1) Uncertain about the wire harness, will have to wait until it is released for that but I know that for my Pioneer CD deck (860), I needed a kit.

2)PAC has a kit (made for Camry but works with tC) that lets you use your steering wheel controls with almost any aftermarket deck. If the Z1 doesn't already have one, the PAC adapter is the next best solution.

3) It is true that the 5495 has to rip in real time (1x). However for the Z1, it is listed as ripping upto/at 4x so it'll take 1/4th the time it takes you to listen to the whole CD, I think.

 

omg cant wait till this unit it out! and aslo on ebay ahaha

 

most likely it will NOT be plug and play.. only units i've seen do that are the AVNs.

so yeah.. that means adapter if you want steering wheel controls too.... which i'm not sure how that's really gonna work out..

and as for ripping CDs... have no clue... but i doubt it's real-time..... cause one.. that's just stupid of them to do that.. and two... i think ndnbolla is about right... 4x or something maybe...

 

anyone know how well the z1 will control an ipod? i've heard that the d1 doesn't do a very good job with ipods but this new unit might be a different story.

 

ipod adapter... it should just be like the d1... controlled from the unit itself..

i don't know how well the d1 controls the ipod.. but it does do it. i expect the same format.

where did you hear the d1 doesn't do it very well?

 

The accounts I've heard of the D1's iPod controls have been largely anecdotal from other similar forums. I did a little poking around on Pioneer's website and the CD-IB100 (the iPod interface adapter) supports a large number of head units. Some units are supported fully, amongst them are the AVIC-Z1!!! and AVIC-N3. The D1 is supported under "external unit control, with some limitations in operation and display." So this might explain the less-than-optimal interface. I've heard it's slow and only displays eight characters of the song title but I haven't see any of this firsthand so please correct me if I'm wrong.

 

i'm selling my avic-d1 if anyone is interested. reasonable price. i want this z1

 

And so it has begun...

http://search.ebay.com/search/search...+z1&category0=

http://www.pricegrabber.com/search_g...search=avic-z1

IN STOCK and ready to ship.

Just wished my local CC/BB/Tweeters had the damn thing in so I could demo it.

 

Ordering mines today...