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Old Jul 12, 2004 | 04:55 AM
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What type of headlights are those headlights that kind of have that blue tint in them which is legal since they sell them stock on like bmw's and ____.

Anyone know what I mean?

I don't think it's those angel eye things... I might be wrong.


please help.
Old Jul 12, 2004 | 04:56 AM
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thats called HID. use the search. HID lights are the high end bulbs, they have ballasts n what not.....check it out
Old Jul 12, 2004 | 05:02 AM
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HIDs like he said. Kits cost anywhere from $300-1000 depending on the kit.

They are not legal to add to a car without them, but most police will never bother you for having them.
Old Jul 12, 2004 | 05:03 AM
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do the lights have like a blue tint in em... know what I mean?
Old Jul 12, 2004 | 05:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Hex
do the lights have like a blue tint in em... know what I mean?
I think the blue hue is just that type of lights fluorescent property.
Old Jul 12, 2004 | 05:08 AM
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http://www.geocities.com/integsrtite/storage/

^^^ some1 on here posted these pics of his tc with hid's. look at them ____s glow. awesome.
Old Jul 12, 2004 | 05:14 AM
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the blue tint is from the projector lens. they use 4300-5100k bulbs which is yellowish white to white. the projetor lens is what gives the tint color that changes from blue to purple but the beam is still white.
Old Jul 12, 2004 | 05:27 AM
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Where can I get those lights? what are they called?
Old Jul 12, 2004 | 05:28 AM
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You can also buy bulbs in different color temperatures that range from yellow to purple (with white and blue being in between).

Search eBay for "HID conversion."
Old Jul 12, 2004 | 05:36 AM
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hids from the dealers are all 4300k(white w/ a lilyellow purple hue)

9 out of 10 times whne u see a BIG purple color or
color changing characteristics, its cuz the headlight is using a
projector housing. the beam is VERY sharp(the cutoff) and the closer u get
to the cutout, the more spectrum u will see, aka COLOR.

even stock cars like ML500 or AUDI's without hids will emit color change..
and WITH hid's u will see more color cuz the beam is more closer to a pure
white on the color spectrum.

hid bulbs burn at a white white light with a few purple spots here/there.
depending on how the beam is focused, it determines how it will
look to our eyes. just becase the headlight LOOKS PURPLE, doesn't mean
the beam on the floor is purple, its usually a white with yellow tint(4300k).
its the brightest and most lumens on the color scale.
Old Jul 12, 2004 | 06:15 AM
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Since the debut of HID lightings in 1996, the HID technology becomes more mature and different color temperatures have become available. If you would like to change the color of your HID lights, e.g., to a higher color temperature, 6000K, 8000K, or even 10000K, you can simply change the bulbs (D2R, D2S, etc.) We carry replacement (D2R or D2S) bulbs for HID systems with all these color temperatures.

Disadvantage of the HID lighting systems is of course the high cost. For example on a 2003 Z4, the option of HID is priced at $800. Other manufacturers HID options can run even higher. There have been aftermarket HID conversion kits selling in the market. However, the conversion kits are illegal in the U.S. according to DOT (Dept of Transportation) regulation. So what do you do if you want to see better and look better at night? That's where the xenon bulbs come in. The xenon bulbs simulate the look of HID lights in color temperature. This is done by adding xenon gas in the capsule, along with other gases such as krypton, and halogen gases. The xenon bulbs are coated blue to produce higher color temperature which shows white light with a blue tint v.s. the conventional halogen bulbs which produce yellow lights. The advantage of xenon bulbs is that they are much cheaper and more affordable than the HID systems. If your new car does not come with the HID system, now you have a way to get the super white/blue lights at a much lower cost. One disadvantage of the xenon bulbs, however, is the short life span compared to the HID's.

Color Temperature
Color temperature, expressed on the Kelvin scale (K), is the color appearance of the lamp itself and the light it produces.

Imagine a block of steel that is steadily heated until it glows first orange, then yellow and so on until it becomes "white hot." At any time during the heating, we could measure the temperature of the metal in Kelvins (Celsius + 273) and assign that value to the color being produced. This is the theoretical foundation behind color temperature.

For incandescent lamps, the color temperature is a "true" value; for fluorescent and high-intensity discharge (HID) lamps, the value is approximate and is therefore called correlated color temperature. In the industry, "color temperature" and "correlated color temperature" are often used interchangeably. The color temperature of lamps makes them visually "warm," "neutral" or "cool" light sources. Generally speaking, the lower the temperature is, the warmer the source, and vice versa.

It's important to remember this because it seems counterintuitive -- we want to believe that bluer light sources have a low or "cooler" color temperature, and that yellow light sources have a high or "warmer" color temperature, but the exact opposite is the case.

Lamps with a lower color temperature (3500K or less) have a warm or red-yellow/orangish-white appearance. The light is saturated in red and orange wavelengths, bringing out warmer object colors such as red and orange more richly.

Lamps with a mid-range color temperature (3500K to 4100K) have a neutral or white appearance. The light is more balanced in its color wavelengths.

Lamps with a higher color temperature (4100K or higher) have a cool or bluish-white appearance.

Summer sunlight at noon on a clear day has a very cool appearance at about 5500K. The light is saturated in green and blue wavelengths, bringing out cooler object colors such as green and blue more richly. The color characteristics of daylight, however, are variable, as in the early morning and late afternoon the light is warm in color appearance. Daylight is therefore a dynamic light source whose color qualities change throughout the day.

The vast majority of electric light sources in the architectural market are considered "white" light; some are just a bit warmer or cooler than others. There are specialty lamps on the market that give off more saturated colors; the light source can be specified to emit light in a basic color. Fluorescent and incandescent lamps are available in red, blue, green and yellow (or gold). Metal halide lamps are available in blue, green, yellow and pink.
Old Jul 12, 2004 | 08:38 AM
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"xenons" are illegal BECAUSE of the blue tint. tinting a beam of light cuts off all other wavelengths except for that color. white light has all wavelengths, which is why its so bright. so tinting is illegal because it makes your headlights much dimmer than white light really is.

silverstars are legal though: http://www.sylvania.com/auto/silverstar.htm
but they're white halogens.
Old Jul 12, 2004 | 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Hex
Where can I get those lights? what are they called?
listen, learn about HIDs/Xenons before you decide to buy... and don't get confused with just halogen bulbs that are tinted over.
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