i accidently did that once without knowing it and you can also change gears at high rpms without using the clutch but i don't know if it would be bad or not but most likey its bad

 

its called power-shifting. and yes, its bad. you have a clutch. use it.

 

Thought heal toe was more of a racing thing then daily driving?

I brake alittle then pull clutch in and brake and depending on wut im doing like a yield or stop i go to 2nd for yield and at stop 90% i go down to 1st sometimes i start in 2nd

 

I coast in N to the light because I'm too poor for a clutch, but I will downshift if need be.

 

it is. there's really no reason to do it if you're coming to a light. but its all preference, its not WRONG to do it, but theres no advantage if you're not in a race type setting.

 

If you're downshifting, it's better to heel-toe than to just use the clutch to match the RPM, wether racing or just slowing down on the street. And yes, it's a nasty habit to get into.
Btw, does anyone actually use their Heel/Toe? My foot is too big and I can barely do it the 'right' way, so I just use half of my foot on the brake and half on the gas, and as braking, I can roll my foot, pressing the gas pedal.

 

^that happens when i'm wearing boots...but on accident tho.
i do this usually, but other times i'll go through the gears

 

well, you can just blip the throttle to rev-match. you dont necessarily have to heel-toe.
yea, i use the side of my foot. so its more like "side of my foot-toe" downshifting.

 

When an automatic transmission is down shifting, it's nothing like a manual. It isn't down shifting to slow the car down, which, when driving a manual, is why you do it. So those are apples and oranges and can't be compared.

 

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[quote="CarbonXe"]If I do it quickly, IE have to do it out of the blue I'll do that. But if I'm racing around and expecing it I actually use my Heel and Toe. doing the half foot thing isn't too safe. My foot actually slipped off the brake when I was doing that once.

 

Not if you coast from 80-0 and don't have to rev back up to go into gear again. That's the thing people always forget about. They coast in neutral, thinking they're saving on gas, but when the time comes to put it back into gear, they have to rev match...and revving to 3500-4000 rpm once uses about the same amount of gas as cruising down that hill while still in gear.

 

Honestly, I can say that I actually downshift without rev matching, Couple hundreds of time. The tranny will only let you downshift into that gear if you are going the correct speed range for that gear, unless you force the gear in and let go the clutch then the rpm goes past the redline. That how I see it.

I use engine braking a lot than my brake, mostly for highway driving or turn that I need to go a tad slower. Depending on the type situation I would go from 5th to 3rd sometime releasing the clutch slowly than playing attention to the rpm. If I know the situation is too much for engine braking to slow me down, then I would use my brake.

When coming to stop I would press on clutch while braking and downshift to 2nd from 5th or 4th depending on speed. If I know I going to complete stop I would change it to 1st, while still holding the clutch down the whole time.

Everybody have their own way of driving. There no correct way to drive, as long you following the law.

 

He wasn't saying it would allow you to 'over rev' the engine. Using the clutch to match RPM's without giving any throttle puts just as much wear on the clutch as riding it.

 

additionally, if you're carrying passengers, rev matching allows for a smoother ride for them. well, you too.

 

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I got in a habit of decelerating in gear until a stop and then shifting in to neutral. I had a bad tune so whenever I shifted into neutral for too long the car stalled. Even after I got it fixed I still do this except when I am i occasionally rev match in hopes for a red going green.

 

too bad that free power gets wasted when u have to go back uphill

 

Very true, but you can't blip the throttle while using the brakes unless you heel-toe, or as we do it, side of foot-toe.