How do you downshift?
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Originally Posted by SePaTc
wheres the clutch? u aren't doing this on an auto are you??
like i said, if "heel-toeing" makes you feel better, more power to ya. its more difficult to do it in the tc than its worth.
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I agree with you nick, I'm sure everyone else does as well. I feel it is completely unnecessary to use on the street, but it is more fun. That's pretty much what locondcoco was saying. Unnecessary but people still do it because they want to.
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Originally Posted by a_german_named_hans
You really need to make sure you know what you're talking about before you open your mouth. its called heel toe braking. notice braking comes after toe. You brake with... You guess it, your toe. 
Before you go out and try and act smart, make sure you know what you're talking about.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=cPj9XXW25GA
And if that's not good enough check it out being used in real race in a race car.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=IuoZeuSgEj4&feature=related
Keep digging your own grave buddy. Keep on diggin.
Before you go out and try and act smart, make sure you know what you're talking about.http://youtube.com/watch?v=cPj9XXW25GA
And if that's not good enough check it out being used in real race in a race car.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=IuoZeuSgEj4&feature=related
Keep digging your own grave buddy. Keep on diggin.
heel-toe downshift kid. keep googling.
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Originally Posted by Nick06tC
As much as I dislike SEPATC and his comments, I am going to have to agree with him that heel toeing is pretty much unneeded for driving on the street.
You can decelerate dwon from 55 MPH, to a stop with out doing it. The only time heel toeing is really needed is when your downshift into your next gear is going to put you in the 5000 RPM range. And this should only be happening on a race track.
Like was stated, the purpose of heelo toing is to be able to carry the correct gear through a turn, so that when you exit you are in the lowest gear possible to keep you in the power band of your car. It is also used because if you are mid turn and just grab a gear, its going to unbalance the gear horrible from the shock of transmission going one speed, engine going another. You heel toe to get them both at the same speed so that its a smooth tranistion.
Any one that tracks their car knows that ANYTHING sudden in a turn is a disaster. To much gas, to little gas, a downshift done wrong, or to much breaking, and your gonna loose it.
On the street, you can easily down shift from 5th-4th at 55 mph wit simply presing clutch in, shifting releasing clutch. The difference in rpms is very minimal so clutch wear is near negligible.
All just personal opinion though.
You can decelerate dwon from 55 MPH, to a stop with out doing it. The only time heel toeing is really needed is when your downshift into your next gear is going to put you in the 5000 RPM range. And this should only be happening on a race track.
Like was stated, the purpose of heelo toing is to be able to carry the correct gear through a turn, so that when you exit you are in the lowest gear possible to keep you in the power band of your car. It is also used because if you are mid turn and just grab a gear, its going to unbalance the gear horrible from the shock of transmission going one speed, engine going another. You heel toe to get them both at the same speed so that its a smooth tranistion.
Any one that tracks their car knows that ANYTHING sudden in a turn is a disaster. To much gas, to little gas, a downshift done wrong, or to much breaking, and your gonna loose it.
On the street, you can easily down shift from 5th-4th at 55 mph wit simply presing clutch in, shifting releasing clutch. The difference in rpms is very minimal so clutch wear is near negligible.
All just personal opinion though.
hmmm...another person who knows what he's talking about....not just from reading SL posts.
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