Tiberian, I do agree road accidents are a problem... But is that number greater than Iraq's deaths because of the loss of a side air bag? Or is it due by novice drivers or drunk drivers, bad road conditions, people not paying attention to their tire pressure, people driving while talking on cell phones, people driving half asleep, people street racing...

Hm... If you put all that together, you can assume the side air bags can prevent some deaths, but we can't prove that they'll die without them if they lived...

However, there were incidents where improper air bag timing actually killed people and this is proven through cause of death...

http://www.detnews.com/2003/autosins...der-324489.htm

Don't think every piece of equiptment is safe just because they advertise it to be... Seat belts if worn improperly can slice you literally in HALF... Seriously... They CAN cut you literally in half...

All I'm saying is that, I rather go with the proven front air bags which IS a standard now and pass on the side air bag which might prove to need a bit more road test...

for all those that don't trust me, just read the link...

As for flaming, tCJunkie, I know you can voice your thought out better than that, and I know CofCtC didn't meant to do it on purpose... They're good people, but heck words fly out so lets just cool the tone guys...

 

sometimes, i dont trust air bags. like kauss said, the air bag timing can be bad and off. some of my cousins and their parents have gotting in accidents and some have rolled their car or suv. none of the cars in the accident have ever had their airbags go off. my cousin was rearended at a stop and was hit by a car going 60. the air bags didnt go off. he was in the hospital for neck injury. i just hope i dont get in an accident. and if i do get in a pretty bad accident, i hope the bags go off.

 

this is amusing....okay ill just "site" here and not respond..... dude do you think joining the armed forces is a vacation.....hi we are in the business of killing. i still see no point in bringing it up. people die....it happens....you see there is a difference between responding to posts to give an opinion and feeling the need to berate people in your response....but i suppose thats the only way you feel you can get your point across....relax pal...its not that serious

 

oh and as far as the beating hondas......you obviously know nothing about cars

 

Hello hypocrite. I knew you would cave. There's isn't much point in you calling attention to a simple typo I made, when your posts are strewn with grammatical inaccuracies. ill = I'll, i = I, no punctuation, etc. Doesn't that seem silly?

To answer your questions, I don't think joining the armed forces is a vacation. I was merely explaining it since you seemed to have no understanding of the comparison without further detail. I would love to see you continue on about why I know nothing about cars. Is it because all hondas run 12's? Maybe they're are just dyno queens, or aren't street legal? What part gave away my stupidity? I mean, there must be something I'm missing, right? What on earth would possibly seem incorrect about someone thinking his tC will beat every single car a company makes? Hmmmmm....

 

the fact here is that it costs more money to have the side air bags, if it was standard the costs would be higher.
Iraq.
I just thought I would throw that in there.
I've been in 4 accidents none of them the airbags have deployed.

 

*tosses a log on the fire*

The more side bags are produced the cheaper they become to produce.

 

Air bags not deploying is normal... If made correctly, they should deploy in a front end accident... The reason being is because the people in the car can be tossed around in another accident which would not need an air bag in the front position... (Like a T-Bone which would need side air bags)

Just a little thing about the old air bags... The force of the bag deploying can snap your neck and kill you with wrong timming... This is why I'm shaky about them but since fronts are madatory now, I can live with it because being mandatory means they must have put enough effort in tests and trust into the product...

I had both front air bags deploy in my WRX... It was a mad accident in which I am lucky to be alive in but ironically I walked away with a 1" scrape to my hip from the seatbelt...

 

You people want justification for side-impact SRS? Check this:

http://www.hwysafety.org/vehicle_rat...y_midinexp.htm

In these tests the side airbag made the difference between life and death. The people in the Camry with side-impact SRS would have been out-patients. The people in the Camry without the side-impact SRS would have been out of luck and six feet under.

And those silly, leftist reports of seatbelts and airbags killing people are grossly exaggerated. For every one person who dies because of a seatbelt or airbag, hundreds or even thousands more are saved by them.

 

The media isn't left or right. There are only 2 factors that govern the media. To report what sells so that they make more money selling ads. And, not to report anything that compromises their conglomerate owners.