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Old May 23, 2007 | 12:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Adeel
The reservation I have with the toyos is that all of you who are pushing it as an All season tire live in warm areas! Ya'll prob have never seen snow. I'm pretty sure I'm not going to get another set of winter tires anytime soon so I need something that's not going to get me killed in the snow.
Adeel- I don't care what otocan says. I have driven in the snow with the Proxes4. Michigan, we get a lot of snow. And there is NOTHING wrong with the proxes4 It's an all-season tire. anything more than 5 inches of snow, forget it. But then again that's close to the ground clearance of the tC anyway.

So again, there isn't anything wrong with the Proxes4. Traction is fine when it gets cold, snowy, wet, etc. And wet/dry it's excellent too. I'm not sure why one person has so much against the proxes4. But there is nothing wrong with it. I can speak from personal experience, not from someone who knew someone etc..
Old May 23, 2007 | 12:14 AM
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The yokos are a good tire indeed, but VERY poor in the snow. The proxes 4 aren't great in the snow, but aren't nearly as bad as the yokos. Also, the yokos may be the #1 tire on tirerack, but realize that tirerack doesn't sell toyos, so those don't have the opportunity to beat them out for the #1 spot. I'm a strong supporter of the proxes4.

I've driven the proxes 4 in the snow, we had a pretty bad winter in NY and CT where I am. They didn't do great, but at the same time, they didn't get me killed. They got me home from work and then I stayed there.
Old May 23, 2007 | 03:23 AM
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Originally Posted by sciontc_mich
Originally Posted by Adeel
The reservation I have with the toyos is that all of you who are pushing it as an All season tire live in warm areas! Ya'll prob have never seen snow. I'm pretty sure I'm not going to get another set of winter tires anytime soon so I need something that's not going to get me killed in the snow.
Adeel- I don't care what otocan says. I have driven in the snow with the Proxes4. Michigan, we get a lot of snow. And there is NOTHING wrong with the proxes4 It's an all-season tire. anything more than 5 inches of snow, forget it. But then again that's close to the ground clearance of the tC anyway.

So again, there isn't anything wrong with the Proxes4. Traction is fine when it gets cold, snowy, wet, etc. And wet/dry it's excellent too. I'm not sure why one person has so much against the proxes4. But there is nothing wrong with it. I can speak from personal experience, not from someone who knew someone etc..
Just to clarify since I don't like getting called out like that, I've driven the proxes for 4 full runs at an autocross event, and drove them around the neighborhood and onto and off again on the highway, and I do not like them compared to the other tires I have run for the reasons I mentioned. I haven't driven them in the snow, but letting that guy drive my car in the snow with my Nokian WR's was convincing enough for him to get a set of dedicated winter tires, he said they didn't bite in the snow like winter tires do, obviously. With my WR's I can plow snow with my front bumper and never have any traction issues, it just holds, if I PURPOSEFULLY snap the wheel or purposefully cause oversteer (snow-drifting is fun lol) they bite the SNOW as soon as the car is straightened again without hesitation, and it's not too easy to cause traction loss. If you haven't driven dedicated winter tires in the winter, you don't know what you're missing.

If you buy the proxes, they have a 500 mile warranty THROUGH AN AUTHORIZED DEALER where you can return them if you don't like them, but it's not like you can buy them now to test them in the snow.

I have personally driven on EVERY tire I have listed, but the only ones I drove in the snow were the Eagle F1's, RT-615's (don't, not smart, we got hit with a flash snow and I was trying it for the heck of it) and the Blizzaks, all the rest were during the spring/summer, usually at autocross events and around the parking lots of autocross events.

Truthfully, you can't really go wrong with any of the tires listed here at all, but none of them are going to have traction in the snow like a dedicated winter tire, just take it easy and you should be fine.

And for the record, I have nothing against the toyo's at all, I already said they were a decent tire, I'm just reinstating the fact that I have NO idea why people spout them off like they're the only tire on the planet everyone should own, they're not the best at anything, they're mediocre, that's why they're ALL-SEASONS
Old May 23, 2007 | 03:25 PM
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What is the avg treadlife on the Proxes4? I know it's not the strongest suit of these tires and there's probably a wide range depending on use, but I just wanted to get a ballpark figure. Oh also has anyone ordered from edge? https://www.edgeracing.com/ legit? good?

Thanks much
Old May 23, 2007 | 08:14 PM
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from what wear I've recorded.. it's 2/32" of wear every 7000 miles. it starts at 10/32" new. 21-25,000 until it gets to 4/32". or 30,000 (roughly) for 2/32" which is the wear bars. I personally like to replace tires before it gets that low.

also these tires need to be rotated every 3,500 miles, to maintain warranty. And they need to be rotated that soon to keep even wear.
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